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the smoke radio for the masses of July 8

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1947 the Army Air Forces has announced

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that applying disc has been found and is

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now in the possession of the army

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game is rigged change the game game

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changer I occasionally think how quickly

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our difference is worldwide would vanish

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this is Fade to Black with your host

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Jimmy Church on the game changer Radio

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all right good evening Fade to Black it

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is what is today Wednesday it's a

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hold on I'll tell you right now it's

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2023 I'm your host Jimmy church and

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accidental truth tonight on the show I'm

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very excited tonight Gene breuda is with

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us and she's with us for the first time

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uh we're going to be talking about

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everything tonight we're going to jump

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all around she is a veteran

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investigative reporter and mscis has

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written hundreds of published articles

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on wide-ranging subjects from politics

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to health and finance and Technology

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climate the Paranormal and much more

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I've got her book on UFOs here in the

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studio we'll be talking about that too

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as well and she is able to connect the

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dots and expose Above Top Secret

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information cover-ups suppressed sources

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and Arcane occult knowledge that's what

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I'm talking about and I would like to

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welcome for the first time to fade to

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black the one and only Gene Brady there

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she is right there Gene good evening

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young lady how you doing

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good evening good evening and howdy

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howdy it's such a pleasure to be with

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you mister to be here with you Mr Church

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I'd love to be you too but you know we

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could switch days for switch lives for a

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day yeah and clearly I'm excited to be

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here it's about you just calm down yeah

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it's about time it's about time and uh

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okay so let's actually start here uh you

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get the First Time guest disclaimer okay

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so we can calm down with that Gene it's

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just you and I sitting on my couch

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having a conversation as friends and

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where that conversation starts it starts

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where it ends it ends but we're gonna

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end his friends there you go you ready

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oh hey here um I'm gonna I'm gonna start

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with the uh the typical question

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um but for you it's uh it really applies

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you've been at this for a very very very

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um let's turn back uh the pages a little

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bit here and and I I just want to know

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where your interest started in the

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subjects that this community covers

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UFO's Consciousness Bigfoot uh

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historical places around the world you

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know lost history

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um you write and and and cover all of

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these topics but but what happened was

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there a a single event uh years ago

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events when I was a lonely geeky child

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books at home devoured all the books at

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connections and a mother who taught at

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the local University campus got

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access to University libraries and it

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was there that I discovered there were

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new shelves I'd never seen before at

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school at my school on the Paranormal

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and that was a really interesting ghosts

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ESP but the subject that really grabbed

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me for and I'll never know why actually

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I think I do know why we could talk

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about that later but for some reason and

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other people have felt this too I would

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and I can State categorically that Eric

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Von Donegan shaped my opinions

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originally and to this day I credit him

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with my lifelong interest in the topic

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he after all came from a lay background

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didn't have college degrees father was

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in the hotel business he took it upon

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himself to start questioning history as

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taught in school and he wrote of course

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now Infamous Chariots of the Gods the

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other author that sticks out in my mind

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is Jay Allen heineck Dr J Allen heineck

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of Project Blue Book Fame he wrote

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Flying Saucer expose lots of guys did

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nuclear physicist well I shouldn't say

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physics a nuclear technician more

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appropriately and uh he was in he worked

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year so when I got involved in the in

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reading books by Von Donegan and heineck

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particular one by heineck and Chariots

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of the Gods to my dad in the kitchen one

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day I said Dad these guys they're not

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just Kooks one's an astrophysicists Dr

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heineck and the other is well researched

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he's got he paints a good scientific

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argument let's just say and I didn't

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know if my dad knew anything about the

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topic or not I just said do you think

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there's any possibility that the topic

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of UFOs are the phenomenon of UFOs is

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and because he was the smartest guy I

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knew the most scientific guy I knew and

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he thought about he took two three Beats

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and he looked me right in the eye and he

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right now the US government has no

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scientific evidence that supports the

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existence of UFOs

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and now I'm thinking either he knew that

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was a lie and he'd been afraid to say

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that right right he was actually reverse

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engineering UFO technology and he found

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that question very problematical coming

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from a basically prepubescent daughter

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terribly inquisitive you know or he was

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being honest and saying no and I haven't

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run across this basically but the way

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he he just the fact that he took so long

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to choose his words that long it was it

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seemed like a very long time it was

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really very long but the whole thing

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seemed a little hinky to me and now we

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know now we know that the period of time

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that I was talking about with him so

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let's put this all in a temporal context

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was publishing in the early 1970s and I

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came along his books three four years

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later so mid 1970s I'm asking my dad in

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the kitchen and I'm talking about

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research that was going on from say

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the mid-1950s that was a Heyday of UFO

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research and that's when my dad was

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involved with nuclear development so

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that's why I was wondering if the if the

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even at the subconscious level at that

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age in the 70s I knew there had to be a

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link between smart guy scientists

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whatever they're working on and UFO

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research because we know know

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historically that smart guy scientists

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were asked when they had completed other

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obligations and projects within the

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military-industrial complex when they'd

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finish with those if they were trusted

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if they did good work if they passed all

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the security checks and things like that

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they they were taken to Area 51 or

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places like that to hangars with UFOs

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shown UFOs and said would you like to

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just like help me with his name but the

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the engineer who can draw from memory

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schematics if UFOs he's done it so much

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um I uh the Eric Von daniken thing I

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thought that was my own unique story my

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mom giving me his book in 1970 and and

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going to see you know Church of the Gods

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the movie and and things that that was

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my own unique thing now a couple of

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I I get that answer over and over again

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and a couple of years ago

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uh Eric uh asked me to be one of his

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first guests on his new podcast and I

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said yeah sure that's an honor and uh so

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the first question Gene I'm not making

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this up either he goes so Jimmy

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what got you into UFOs I go

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you right

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and uh any kind of giggles and and I

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said but but Eric I have asked that same

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question

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um to hundreds and hundreds and hundreds

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of guests and they all point to you and

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I thought it was my own unique little

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thing where I planted a flag and and it

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was my own little world no

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um he has influenced so many and I'm not

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so sure he may kind of have an idea Gene

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but I think he has no idea yeah I don't

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think so either it is no idea and I'll

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tell you why I paid some small amount of

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extra money to be in a more private

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workshop with him so 40 people and

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contact in the desert where I met you

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West contact into the Other Desert West

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so in California and this was before all

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the health emergency stuff so people

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roamed freely I thought well meeting

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Eric Von Donegan especially in close

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quarters was on my bucket list as a UF a

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researcher and a fan of Eric vonton

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again I was a fan girl at this event I

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just went around getting selfies with

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everybody and so my selfie with him is

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one of my prized possessions and I

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wouldn't have it if I weren't the

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assertive person that I am he was

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setting up for this workshop and he was

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speaking in German to his young

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assistant who was The Tech Guy I could

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tell and Eric was struggling with some

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tech stuff he's trying to get his slides

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queued up and I'm thinking this is my

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time to get my selfie so I weasel my way

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I just walked I didn't weasel I walked

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right up to him he's sitting down at a

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desk he's helpless I walk up I've got my

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camera ready and and the focus ready I

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said I I am one of your biggest fans you

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got me in the UFOs and he's basically

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like so what

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lines of smile took the picture and I'm

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so glad I did because after the workshop

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I would shoot away naturally after the

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workshop he had time for like six

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pictures with people before he just got

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too tired and off he went and it wasn't

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too much he didn't walk the earth plane

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for too much longer than that and so it

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really was an honor yeah yeah I have uh

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one of my favorite pictures I'm going to

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show to you here

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um it's in my files as the selfie you

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ready I'm ready

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I think we're all ready yes oh my gosh

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who isn't there I'm blinded oh and

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radio uh and it's it's the full picture

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man I gotta take a selfie of this oh

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yeah the best part is is Eric look at

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Eric's face I mean you know it doesn't

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get whatever whatever yeah because I had

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horned my

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gotten myself and by the way I was going

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to show you but my camera's in the other

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room so maybe after a break but uh you

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know to prove that I'm not lying uh

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because and also I'd sat I was sitting

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in the front row I mean there were four

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rows of people ten in a row basically

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and I know I've I'm of I'm this person

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I'm the person he's talking to I'm his

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audience and I wasn't the only one who

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was his audience in the audience but I'm

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very well schooled and I'm very

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articulate and I'm very mouthy so once

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you got into the workshop I'm following

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right along and this was two with other

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people at the convention too following

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along in conversation and asking

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intelligent your main questions and

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making intelligent Jermaine comments at

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all the right times well he was a bit

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combative and argumentative at first

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because I'd riled him by ruffling by

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upsetting his flow before the workshop

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and I get it I get that totally as a

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person who does presentations and

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performance I totally get that and I was

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in that sense disrespectful but I don't

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have any regrets because that's what he

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gets paid to do okay he's he should know

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he's a celeb and and he's so humble and

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modest I will say yeah

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he knows he was come he was

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confrontational at first in the workshop

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but I want him over I want him over

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because it's just you know my charm is

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irresistible for one thing but when you

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get people who know the topics in the

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same confined space the the in my

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opinion the enthusiasm becomes

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infectious and he showed video that he

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had commissioned or of working that

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commissioned inside the Great Pyramid in

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Egypt going a little robot with a camera

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on it going up a new passage an unbefore

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unexplored passage and up and up and up

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this rapid goes and it meets a little

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wall and so they bring the thing back

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and they neuter and they get a little

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more funding and they put a basically a

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drill or a hammer on this thing and it

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goes in and it destroys the wall so it

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can get through and it goes through and

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it goes through and it goes through and

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finally gets to a dead end and there's

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like

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a spike or something there's there's

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some Hardware in there yeah yeah

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inexplicable Hardware in there and not

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much else and yeah it was two copper

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plugs two copper plugs yeah yeah that

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was very conclusive but uh nonetheless

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fascinating if you like that sort of

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icky thing which I do now what do you

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clearly you do too yeah I I studied that

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uh for uh it's called Gayton brings a

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door it's uh it's a fascinating part of

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the uh the Giza Pyramid well we'll

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Circle back to that I do want to talk

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about Egypt and and sites around the

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world but I want to get your take on

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because you've been doing this uh for so

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long

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um did you ever see a day where uh we

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would not only have the Pentagon and

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Congress and Washington but but

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universities and the community and the

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media all at the same time uh presenting

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the subject of UFOs to the world like we

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are today did you see this coming ever

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well it was on my mind constantly and

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something I hope for but what's most

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interesting to me is that despite all of

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that aforementioned by you the general

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public doesn't know about any of that

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in other words after all those years of

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CIA funded

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discrediting

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and disparaging and ruining careers I

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had hoped for a public apology quite

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honestly and I know that's a little much

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to hope for but I had hoped that some

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agency would come out and say well

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we weren't completely telling the truth

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but instead this new structure has grown

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up all of a sudden out of the Pentagon

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that uh in order to defend their Naval

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Airmen especially in other branches of

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government personnel and other branches

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of government they've decided to admit

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yeah these things exist and we don't

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know what they are but that didn't make

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front front page news interestingly

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enough that came out and I think it was

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April or May of 2020 and there were

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other health issues going on in the

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country in the world at that time as you

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may recall so what better time I guess

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to

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leak the so-called Tic Tac videos or

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they didn't leak them they Declassified

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them and then they said yeah these are

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these are our property they're

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government property they're the real

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thing in other words

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so basically all the analysis that on

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the analysis the discussion that had

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come before that regarding those

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specific videos and any other like them

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plus any other military or non-military

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citing ever in history

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comes back up for review

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and it's kind of like the legalization

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of pot where we spring people out of

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jail who were formally criminalized

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because they're not criminals anymore

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how about that big fat apology from the

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federal government for all the people

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who were reviled for covering UFOs in a

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very serious way and now it's being

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covered in a very serious way and still

408
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the average person doesn't know it's

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being covered in a very serious way

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that's my take on it yeah no that's a

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that's a really really really really

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good point and

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um there's there's another part to that

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though

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um it seems at least from where I sit

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uh that the world is so much more

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educated now right much smarter and when

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when heinek and and blue book in the 40s

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and 50s and 60s and and that's Donald

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Keyhole and and James McDonald and and

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everybody else that was involved uh with

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uh UFOs in the investigation of them

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um we didn't have an understanding of

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like we do today of the universe and and

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planets and the size of things

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um today I think everybody knows

427
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universe is a very big place and it's

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got to be full of life

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and that's the other interesting part

430
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where I think the planet is handling

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things pretty well don't you

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respectfully I have to agree somewhat

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but disagree that

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first people know people generally know

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more about say astronomy or the nature

436
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of nature it's not at all clear to me

437
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that that is true especially after

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Decades of dumbing down I've seen videos

439
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YouTube videos and and you can find the

440
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other spectrum of this as well you can

441
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find plenty educated and smart youth who

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who will be Our Saviors in the future I

443
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have no no worry about the decline of

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that that aspect of the decline of

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civilization as we know it however

446
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there's plenty of reporters wandering

447
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around college campuses where basically

448
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students don't know where they live

449
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cannot find the United States on a map

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okay so I'm I'm thinking so so one thing

451
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is it's not at all clear to me that the

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the average person is better educated

453
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about science generally than they were

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after World War II and I say that

455
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because remember after World War II

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there was this rise in and spike in

457
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interest in science and technology went

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along with this recruiting of smart

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smart people after World War II people

460
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who demonstrated their cleverness both

461
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mechanically as Engineers but also

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theoretically as well and so very smart

463
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people were recruited and also came in

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from foreign countries through Project

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Paperclip Etc

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so there were kids books I grew up with

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kids books in the library about let's

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what would it be like to go to the Moon

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and we had on TV soon after the Jetsons

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in the 60s before that there were pulp

471
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comics and Pope dime novels and things

472
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like that about that that grew out of

473
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H.G Wells and Jules Verne there's been

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thought about science

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fact science fiction science fantasy for

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a very very very very long time

477
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and the story that I'm thinking about is

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Betty Hill of Betty and Barney Hill the

479
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famous abduction that I cover in my book

480
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unknown objects the top 10 US UFO cases

481
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Betty after being abducted and having

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had a rigorous medical exam which was

483
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not at all pleasant but not but but

484
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somehow she she reported afterwards

485
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years afterwards that she came out of it

486
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smiling and feeling chatty and chatted

487
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up the captain of the ship who showed

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her a star map basically and said well

489
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we live here she said where are you

490
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where do you live and he said well we

491
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live here and he showed a star map we

492
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live here and this is our system and we

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do this we trade with these guys

494
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and he said so you've seen where we live

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now you know where you live relative to

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there right you could you could show me

497
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and she's like oh no I don't no I don't

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know anything about astronomy or

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anything like that I mean I don't even

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think she knew the word astronomy quite

501
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honestly she she was a well a social

502
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worker just wasn't her field you know

503
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I'm not degrading her intelligence I'm

504
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sure she was plenty smart she just

505
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hadn't learned that all right but when

506
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you grow up with a dad who's a super

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scientist you get introduced to books

508
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about space face you know

509
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yeah so I think it really depends on who

510
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you hang out with and I think you Jimmy

511
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hang out with people who know a lot

512
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about space no that that's true though

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where

514
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um uh you would watch I think Jay Leno

515
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did it uh a lot you know the man on the

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street stuff and would go out and and

517
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ask people you know basic questions

518
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about history and geography and and

519
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whatever

520
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and nobody knew the answers

521
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to some very basic questions and the

522
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questions that you and I would go oh

523
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come on you know who's on a five dollar

524
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bill who's on the penny uh who or you

525
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know these questions and

526
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what and that you're right about that I

527
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I I I I think I have to agree and then

528
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maybe get a little deeper why is why at

529
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one time was a penny called a red Cent

530
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where does that term come from Red scent

531
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what's a red scent well it's kind of

532
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racist well what about a no it's from

533
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the copper it's from the copper

534
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Independence Oh I thought you're talking

535
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about an Indian Head Penny yeah the

536
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Indian had pennies I thought it was from

537
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the copper content well it could be it

538
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might be right we would want to go there

539
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we don't want to go there that's what I

540
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said I don't know if most people don't

541
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even know there was an Indian head penny

542
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well what about oh okay and then we have

543
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things like uh the the UFO hearings uh

544
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well we had one UFO hearing and then one

545
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Arrow budget hearing uh the second

546
00:23:56,750 --> 00:23:53,880
hearing uh uh wasn't uh as UFO Centric

547
00:23:58,970 --> 00:23:56,760
as certainly the first one was did that

548
00:24:00,529 --> 00:23:58,980
I'm sorry about the 2022 National

549
00:24:03,590 --> 00:24:00,539
Defense budget

550
00:24:06,049 --> 00:24:03,600
the the the the hearing in the House of

551
00:24:08,690 --> 00:24:06,059
Representatives last year with Andre

552
00:24:10,850 --> 00:24:08,700
Carson uh chairing

553
00:24:14,870 --> 00:24:10,860
um that was we haven't had anything like

554
00:24:18,110 --> 00:24:14,880
that uh since the 1960s you know it was

555
00:24:19,430 --> 00:24:18,120
50 years yeah yeah yeah well what's

556
00:24:21,830 --> 00:24:19,440
really interesting is that all of a

557
00:24:24,110 --> 00:24:21,840
sudden since 2020 with you know first

558
00:24:27,049 --> 00:24:24,120
came the Pentagon disclosure and I've

559
00:24:29,149 --> 00:24:27,059
been talking about writing about

560
00:24:31,190 --> 00:24:29,159
preaching about disclosures everybody

561
00:24:33,230 --> 00:24:31,200
everybody in UFO research has been

562
00:24:35,570 --> 00:24:33,240
talking about disclosure when will it

563
00:24:38,110 --> 00:24:35,580
come it's got to come it will come

564
00:24:40,909 --> 00:24:38,120
it will come next year

565
00:24:42,350 --> 00:24:40,919
1993 is the year of disclosure Etc et

566
00:24:44,570 --> 00:24:42,360
cetera and finally it did come but it

567
00:24:47,690 --> 00:24:44,580
came with a whimper not a bang

568
00:24:51,010 --> 00:24:47,700
and the next year or two the government

569
00:24:55,130 --> 00:24:51,020
rolls out new agencies and new acronyms

570
00:24:57,470 --> 00:24:55,140
UFO becomes UAP an identified aerial

571
00:25:00,110 --> 00:24:57,480
phenomenon I did a couple shows just

572
00:25:02,930 --> 00:25:00,120
picking that term apart linguistically

573
00:25:05,990 --> 00:25:02,940
what's the military reasoning behind

574
00:25:07,490 --> 00:25:06,000
this new brainwashing term basically

575
00:25:09,350 --> 00:25:07,500
this all has to do with public

576
00:25:13,549 --> 00:25:09,360
perception of things which is ultimately

577
00:25:16,490 --> 00:25:13,559
a type of brainwashing and so why has

578
00:25:20,029 --> 00:25:16,500
the term UFO fallen out of favor I think

579
00:25:22,669 --> 00:25:20,039
it's to obfuscate and and obscure the

580
00:25:24,590 --> 00:25:22,679
topic entirely UAP what's that it's

581
00:25:27,049 --> 00:25:24,600
non-controversial it's not a hot button

582
00:25:28,970 --> 00:25:27,059
at all UFO it's a hot button right you

583
00:25:33,049 --> 00:25:28,980
must be crazy to believe in UFOs yeah

584
00:25:36,289 --> 00:25:33,059
well UFO and uh UFO means one thing to

585
00:25:40,930 --> 00:25:36,299
anybody aliens not of this Earth that's

586
00:25:43,490 --> 00:25:40,940
what UFO means and yeah and and UAP

587
00:25:45,289 --> 00:25:43,500
nothing to most people right that could

588
00:25:46,690 --> 00:25:45,299
it certainly I don't think that people

589
00:25:49,850 --> 00:25:46,700
make a connection

590
00:25:52,970 --> 00:25:49,860
uh to uh you know little green men from

591
00:25:55,610 --> 00:25:52,980
Mars when they hear UAP and I think that

592
00:25:57,710 --> 00:25:55,620
that was done with intention and the

593
00:25:59,570 --> 00:25:57,720
other what's also interesting about that

594
00:26:01,730 --> 00:25:59,580
name change is that the word object has

595
00:26:04,250 --> 00:26:01,740
now changed to phenomenon and if you

596
00:26:06,350 --> 00:26:04,260
think about it the object would be the

597
00:26:08,330 --> 00:26:06,360
craft but what's really interesting is

598
00:26:12,049 --> 00:26:08,340
what you just alluded to or just said

599
00:26:14,210 --> 00:26:12,059
that the real interest is in my opinion

600
00:26:17,149 --> 00:26:14,220
is are the occupants the people inside

601
00:26:18,769 --> 00:26:17,159
the craft and when I talk about this a

602
00:26:21,649 --> 00:26:18,779
lot of people who really aren't that

603
00:26:25,130 --> 00:26:21,659
into the topic don't really consider the

604
00:26:27,890 --> 00:26:25,140
ramifications of if you if you allow for

605
00:26:30,049 --> 00:26:27,900
the existence of The Craft you pretty

606
00:26:31,730 --> 00:26:30,059
much have to allow for the existence of

607
00:26:33,710 --> 00:26:31,740
somebody who built them and drives them

608
00:26:36,890 --> 00:26:33,720
around or flies them around

609
00:26:38,630 --> 00:26:36,900
and that gets a little scarier for a lot

610
00:26:42,409 --> 00:26:38,640
of people well it does it does for me

611
00:26:44,210 --> 00:26:42,419
too because if we if we back up a few

612
00:26:47,390 --> 00:26:44,220
decades

613
00:26:52,549 --> 00:26:47,400
um the the original ideas and myself

614
00:26:55,070 --> 00:26:52,559
included was a a craft some metallic

615
00:26:56,930 --> 00:26:55,080
thing spanning the universe with some

616
00:27:01,250 --> 00:26:56,940
little dude in there you know with you

617
00:27:04,730 --> 00:27:01,260
know flying this thing and and today uh

618
00:27:06,529 --> 00:27:04,740
I'm not so sure if that is that's the

619
00:27:09,590 --> 00:27:06,539
case with some of them yeah absolutely

620
00:27:12,890 --> 00:27:09,600
but I think there's so many different

621
00:27:15,110 --> 00:27:12,900
types of civilizations out there that

622
00:27:17,890 --> 00:27:15,120
they could be getting here any number of

623
00:27:22,190 --> 00:27:17,900
ways and and and

624
00:27:25,669 --> 00:27:22,200
uh they are seen any number of ways

625
00:27:27,830 --> 00:27:25,679
whether it is uh interdimensional if

626
00:27:29,390 --> 00:27:27,840
it's through a portal

627
00:27:32,390 --> 00:27:29,400
um or if there is something else going

628
00:27:34,730 --> 00:27:32,400
on or if the ship is even solid you know

629
00:27:37,370 --> 00:27:34,740
we don't even know that

630
00:27:39,590 --> 00:27:37,380
um I think that the perception is is so

631
00:27:42,529 --> 00:27:39,600
wide these days don't you

632
00:27:46,070 --> 00:27:42,539
I do I do and I think you're entirely

633
00:27:47,169 --> 00:27:46,080
right why would their own if there were

634
00:27:50,330 --> 00:27:47,179
any

635
00:27:52,669 --> 00:27:50,340
extraterrestrial species why wouldn't

636
00:27:54,649 --> 00:27:52,679
there be lots you know if there was a

637
00:27:56,750 --> 00:27:54,659
single one why wouldn't there be lots of

638
00:27:59,450 --> 00:27:56,760
them and I'm not even talking about

639
00:28:04,090 --> 00:27:59,460
Drake's equation which I think is

640
00:28:07,789 --> 00:28:04,100
part of the CIA mind

641
00:28:10,549 --> 00:28:07,799
F I don't know what I don't know how

642
00:28:13,370 --> 00:28:10,559
censored we are here but censored worse

643
00:28:15,409 --> 00:28:13,380
but but we got you Gene we got you yeah

644
00:28:20,450 --> 00:28:15,419
you catch my drift

645
00:28:22,490 --> 00:28:20,460
I do I do the Drake equation and here I

646
00:28:26,510 --> 00:28:22,500
was talking about this last week

647
00:28:29,269 --> 00:28:26,520
Drake Frank Drake uh when he originally

648
00:28:31,850 --> 00:28:29,279
wrote it out and and spit out his first

649
00:28:34,430 --> 00:28:31,860
number the number that he came up with

650
00:28:36,649 --> 00:28:34,440
was ten thousand now let's explain for

651
00:28:39,350 --> 00:28:36,659
listeners who don't know the Drake

652
00:28:42,230 --> 00:28:39,360
equation is a mathematical formula that

653
00:28:44,690 --> 00:28:42,240
basically says there are so many what

654
00:28:47,870 --> 00:28:44,700
Star Trek would call m-class planets so

655
00:28:50,090 --> 00:28:47,880
many potentially Haverhill planets as

656
00:28:52,430 --> 00:28:50,100
far as we can extrapolate or determine

657
00:28:55,250 --> 00:28:52,440
mathematically by projecting what we

658
00:28:59,110 --> 00:28:55,260
know based into what we don't know that

659
00:29:02,630 --> 00:28:59,120
the probability is so high there must be

660
00:29:05,269 --> 00:29:02,640
extraterrestrial intelligent life beings

661
00:29:08,510 --> 00:29:05,279
elsewhere go ahead and and and what

662
00:29:10,909 --> 00:29:08,520
would that number be and when he wrote

663
00:29:14,029 --> 00:29:10,919
that uh equation which I think was

664
00:29:16,010 --> 00:29:14,039
necessary and it's still valuable today

665
00:29:19,789 --> 00:29:16,020
but when he wrote it we hadn't

666
00:29:22,190 --> 00:29:19,799
discovered we wouldn't discover uh our

667
00:29:24,230 --> 00:29:22,200
first exoplanet for another 40 years he

668
00:29:26,870 --> 00:29:24,240
wrote that in 1955. well we wouldn't

669
00:29:30,470 --> 00:29:26,880
Discover It empirically but I maintained

670
00:29:32,570 --> 00:29:30,480
that we have had we nations of Earth we

671
00:29:35,409 --> 00:29:32,580
people of Earth have had contact with

672
00:29:37,490 --> 00:29:35,419
Ester terrestrials since time immemorial

673
00:29:41,450 --> 00:29:37,500
that they have been contacting

674
00:29:45,230 --> 00:29:41,460
government agents and agencies in more

675
00:29:46,549 --> 00:29:45,240
recent history and making secret pacts

676
00:29:50,149 --> 00:29:46,559
and deals

677
00:29:53,510 --> 00:29:50,159
that are affecting societies today and

678
00:29:55,190 --> 00:29:53,520
not necessarily for our benefit we may

679
00:29:57,889 --> 00:29:55,200
be seeing some benefits but not

680
00:30:02,450 --> 00:29:57,899
necessarily for the overall benefit of

681
00:30:04,490 --> 00:30:02,460
human impediments and and so uh and I

682
00:30:05,690 --> 00:30:04,500
agree with that but here's here's the

683
00:30:09,409 --> 00:30:05,700
issue though

684
00:30:11,750 --> 00:30:09,419
is that the government is saying over

685
00:30:16,010 --> 00:30:11,760
and over again whether it's Susan Goff

686
00:30:17,690 --> 00:30:16,020
at uh the Pentagon or uh any of the

687
00:30:19,370 --> 00:30:17,700
secretary by the way if you didn't know

688
00:30:21,130 --> 00:30:19,380
people yes yes

689
00:30:24,590 --> 00:30:21,140
um it is

690
00:30:26,690 --> 00:30:24,600
uh we just don't know we don't

691
00:30:29,090 --> 00:30:26,700
understand we need to find out we just

692
00:30:30,409 --> 00:30:29,100
don't know yeah and the weird thing I

693
00:30:32,210 --> 00:30:30,419
have to interject the weird thing is

694
00:30:35,409 --> 00:30:32,220
that the government is acting like these

695
00:30:38,510 --> 00:30:35,419
brand new agencies since 2020 2021 2022

696
00:30:39,830 --> 00:30:38,520
our starting toddler Raza Clean Slate

697
00:30:41,930 --> 00:30:39,840
that we know nothing about the

698
00:30:44,510 --> 00:30:41,940
phenomenon what what about all these

699
00:30:46,789 --> 00:30:44,520
Decades of research what about mufon

700
00:30:48,470 --> 00:30:46,799
what about all the other intelligence

701
00:30:50,470 --> 00:30:48,480
gathering agencies and evidence

702
00:30:53,810 --> 00:30:50,480
Gathering agencies

703
00:30:55,310 --> 00:30:53,820
even NORAD I mean come on you're not

704
00:30:56,510 --> 00:30:55,320
just starting from scratch and they're

705
00:30:59,269 --> 00:30:56,520
acting like they're starting from

706
00:31:01,190 --> 00:30:59,279
scratch what up with that Jimmy yeah

707
00:31:04,070 --> 00:31:01,200
well if you go back you brought up Jay

708
00:31:05,230 --> 00:31:04,080
Allen heineck right and and his book the

709
00:31:08,450 --> 00:31:05,240
the the

710
00:31:10,149 --> 00:31:08,460
uh forget the exact title the report on

711
00:31:14,450 --> 00:31:10,159
Project Blue Book that was written in

712
00:31:16,909 --> 00:31:14,460
1977. and he was an angry man when he

713
00:31:21,649 --> 00:31:16,919
wrote that book yes he was he was very

714
00:31:26,090 --> 00:31:21,659
angry and fed up ski he was and when you

715
00:31:32,330 --> 00:31:29,210
and the way that he wrote about it uh

716
00:31:34,310 --> 00:31:32,340
back then his his anger his bitterness

717
00:31:37,730 --> 00:31:34,320
towards the government and the Air Force

718
00:31:40,549 --> 00:31:37,740
in general that they did not take any of

719
00:31:43,909 --> 00:31:40,559
it seriously and and if they were taking

720
00:31:46,909 --> 00:31:43,919
it seriously he had to represent to the

721
00:31:49,430 --> 00:31:46,919
public that it was a nothing burger and

722
00:31:52,549 --> 00:31:49,440
that they had to explain everything away

723
00:31:54,649 --> 00:31:52,559
and he clearly said that that is not the

724
00:31:59,690 --> 00:31:54,659
case the way that he wrote about it in

725
00:32:02,510 --> 00:31:59,700
77 is fresh words today in 2023 the book

726
00:32:05,149 --> 00:32:02,520
could be published today and and be just

727
00:32:07,909 --> 00:32:05,159
as legible and readable and same with

728
00:32:10,190 --> 00:32:07,919
major Donald Q Kehoe you mentioned

729
00:32:12,370 --> 00:32:10,200
earlier a friend of mine a neighbor of

730
00:32:17,409 --> 00:32:12,380
mine was cleaning out his mother's house

731
00:32:19,970 --> 00:32:17,419
found a copy a rare copy of keho's

732
00:32:23,090 --> 00:32:19,980
flying saucers are real

733
00:32:26,990 --> 00:32:23,100
and gave it to me a year ago or so it's

734
00:32:30,350 --> 00:32:27,000
amazing this is this is for First Source

735
00:32:32,870 --> 00:32:30,360
for UFO research for many people yeah I

736
00:32:34,970 --> 00:32:32,880
have a published in the 50s with this

737
00:32:37,490 --> 00:32:34,980
fresh research they were doing and he

738
00:32:39,610 --> 00:32:37,500
was reviled by his own people by the

739
00:32:42,610 --> 00:32:39,620
military he was

740
00:32:46,490 --> 00:32:42,620
oh it just makes me so bad

741
00:32:49,730 --> 00:32:46,500
and and so where are we though today is

742
00:32:53,510 --> 00:32:49,740
is is disclosure

743
00:32:56,690 --> 00:32:53,520
um around the corner is that where we

744
00:32:57,710 --> 00:32:56,700
happened it's it's here it it done did

745
00:33:03,590 --> 00:32:57,720
it

746
00:33:05,930 --> 00:33:03,600
well to what degree though because

747
00:33:11,350 --> 00:33:05,940
um and the the reason why I say that

748
00:33:15,529 --> 00:33:11,360
is there are so many millions of people

749
00:33:19,310 --> 00:33:15,539
that their version of disclosure is

750
00:33:21,590 --> 00:33:19,320
absolutely 100 what they need is the

751
00:33:23,509 --> 00:33:21,600
president to step up to the podium and

752
00:33:26,090 --> 00:33:23,519
say we're not alone and do that on live

753
00:33:28,130 --> 00:33:26,100
TV anything short of that they don't

754
00:33:31,909 --> 00:33:28,140
want to hear you when I say oh no we've

755
00:33:35,389 --> 00:33:31,919
we have disclosure no not to them

756
00:33:38,450 --> 00:33:35,399
you know so uh when do we when do you

757
00:33:40,909 --> 00:33:38,460
think that we will get to that point so

758
00:33:43,430 --> 00:33:40,919
the rest of the world can go okay now we

759
00:33:46,509 --> 00:33:43,440
can talk about this that's a very good

760
00:33:50,990 --> 00:33:46,519
question and I don't know the answer

761
00:33:54,470 --> 00:33:51,000
will there will Werner Von Braun's

762
00:33:58,549 --> 00:33:54,480
prediction that the US government will

763
00:34:01,669 --> 00:33:58,559
stage a final false flag attack

764
00:34:02,810 --> 00:34:01,679
or perception of an imminent attack by

765
00:34:06,850 --> 00:34:02,820
aliens

766
00:34:09,950 --> 00:34:06,860
to as our Mo as our last total mind F

767
00:34:13,310 --> 00:34:09,960
basically after pitting us against the

768
00:34:16,369 --> 00:34:13,320
rooskis in the Cold War and uh against

769
00:34:19,070 --> 00:34:16,379
various enemies in succession the Middle

770
00:34:20,930 --> 00:34:19,080
Eastern countries came next there were

771
00:34:25,669 --> 00:34:20,940
he made a series of predictions as

772
00:34:29,270 --> 00:34:25,679
recorded by multiple people that

773
00:34:32,510 --> 00:34:29,280
the government had plans well ahead of

774
00:34:33,530 --> 00:34:32,520
time to keep people fearful and to keep

775
00:34:35,869 --> 00:34:33,540
that

776
00:34:38,210 --> 00:34:35,879
Black Ops funding going as well I mean

777
00:34:39,589 --> 00:34:38,220
think about one other thing I really

778
00:34:41,810 --> 00:34:39,599
like to think about is think of all the

779
00:34:43,490 --> 00:34:41,820
billions and now trillions of dollars

780
00:34:45,889 --> 00:34:43,500
that have been spent on Black Ops to

781
00:34:49,190 --> 00:34:45,899
cover up UFOs specifically think of all

782
00:34:52,490 --> 00:34:49,200
the agencies and agents how many people

783
00:34:54,290 --> 00:34:52,500
have I met in my life alone I know I

784
00:34:56,510 --> 00:34:54,300
just know we're government agents

785
00:34:58,550 --> 00:34:56,520
because of the way they debunked the

786
00:35:00,470 --> 00:34:58,560
phenomenon when I was talking positively

787
00:35:04,570 --> 00:35:00,480
about it in groups

788
00:35:09,230 --> 00:35:04,580
how do I know mufon was infiltrated by

789
00:35:10,130 --> 00:35:09,240
agencies and agents to debunk and

790
00:35:12,250 --> 00:35:10,140
um

791
00:35:19,310 --> 00:35:12,260
it

792
00:35:21,710 --> 00:35:19,320
I went to uh

793
00:35:23,450 --> 00:35:21,720
uh Colorado move on meeting where the

794
00:35:25,849 --> 00:35:23,460
state director was present and I asked

795
00:35:27,230 --> 00:35:25,859
him the director of the state Colorado

796
00:35:31,609 --> 00:35:27,240
mufon

797
00:35:34,190 --> 00:35:31,619
you who aren't familiar uh in charge of

798
00:35:36,589 --> 00:35:34,200
collecting reports of UFO sightings for

799
00:35:38,750 --> 00:35:36,599
decades I said what actually happens to

800
00:35:41,329 --> 00:35:38,760
the state of what is the point any more

801
00:35:43,030 --> 00:35:41,339
of collecting this information and this

802
00:35:47,030 --> 00:35:43,040
would have been in about

803
00:35:48,950 --> 00:35:47,040
2014 okay so about 10 years ago what is

804
00:35:51,410 --> 00:35:48,960
the point of collecting more data surely

805
00:35:53,690 --> 00:35:51,420
we know beyond any shadow of a doubt

806
00:35:56,390 --> 00:35:53,700
that these things exist there's plenty

807
00:35:58,609 --> 00:35:56,400
of observation plenty of images plenty

808
00:36:01,490 --> 00:35:58,619
of video plenty of testimony plenty of

809
00:36:03,650 --> 00:36:01,500
confirmation why are we still doing this

810
00:36:07,130 --> 00:36:03,660
what's the point and where does this

811
00:36:08,990 --> 00:36:07,140
stuff go and the director said the data

812
00:36:13,569 --> 00:36:09,000
is collected and sent off to Washington

813
00:36:15,290 --> 00:36:13,579
DC where scientists

814
00:36:16,010 --> 00:36:15,300
analyze it

815
00:36:18,589 --> 00:36:16,020
um

816
00:36:22,010 --> 00:36:18,599
and his whole tone was like

817
00:36:25,010 --> 00:36:22,020
you couldn't understand it you dip

818
00:36:27,170 --> 00:36:25,020
and that made me so mad just his whole

819
00:36:30,950 --> 00:36:27,180
attitude and that told me right there

820
00:36:33,050 --> 00:36:30,960
this is a that anybody anymore I hate to

821
00:36:34,970 --> 00:36:33,060
say it I'm sorry to anybody who still

822
00:36:37,370 --> 00:36:34,980
believes in mufon and there are some

823
00:36:39,950 --> 00:36:37,380
chapters of mufon that do great good the

824
00:36:41,690 --> 00:36:39,960
the one near where I live has great

825
00:36:43,490 --> 00:36:41,700
members who do great presentations but

826
00:36:45,829 --> 00:36:43,500
I'm just saying to you it's not the

827
00:36:47,390 --> 00:36:45,839
force that it once was and the data is

828
00:36:51,410 --> 00:36:47,400
going into a black hole it's like the

829
00:36:53,030 --> 00:36:51,420
end of Raiders of the Lost Ark where as

830
00:36:54,410 --> 00:36:53,040
an analogy you know instead of a

831
00:36:55,970 --> 00:36:54,420
physical Warehouse there's a data

832
00:36:58,010 --> 00:36:55,980
warehouse and this stuff is just being

833
00:37:01,190 --> 00:36:58,020
dumped into a data warehouse

834
00:37:04,190 --> 00:37:01,200
never to be seen again yeah well uh

835
00:37:07,010 --> 00:37:04,200
nycap went through that too as well with

836
00:37:10,670 --> 00:37:07,020
uh you know Donald Kehoe uh and when

837
00:37:12,109 --> 00:37:10,680
nightcap was first formed uh by Townsend

838
00:37:16,190 --> 00:37:12,119
in the 50s

839
00:37:19,490 --> 00:37:16,200
um it was it was the the board right the

840
00:37:22,370 --> 00:37:19,500
board was was all uh U.S Navy Admirals

841
00:37:25,450 --> 00:37:22,380
and retired and current and then later

842
00:37:29,089 --> 00:37:25,460
the CIA was sort of involved but later

843
00:37:32,030 --> 00:37:29,099
nycap was man that was a CIA front

844
00:37:33,650 --> 00:37:32,040
organization by the time things things

845
00:37:37,430 --> 00:37:33,660
wrapped up and then you had the same

846
00:37:39,650 --> 00:37:37,440
thing happen uh with uh ttsa where you

847
00:37:41,569 --> 00:37:39,660
know you have 12. so the Stars Academy

848
00:37:46,130 --> 00:37:41,579
oh I knew that was a fraud from the

849
00:37:50,349 --> 00:37:46,140
get-go the promises they made well the

850
00:37:52,910 --> 00:37:50,359
guy the guy they picked the front delam

851
00:37:55,849 --> 00:37:52,920
rock star or something

852
00:37:58,609 --> 00:37:55,859
yeah yeah it was a band called Blink 182

853
00:38:00,650 --> 00:37:58,619
but the point I'm not again I'm not

854
00:38:03,589 --> 00:38:00,660
diminishing his talent as a performer it

855
00:38:06,589 --> 00:38:03,599
just seemed strange that such a person

856
00:38:08,510 --> 00:38:06,599
would be after amongst all the people in

857
00:38:10,430 --> 00:38:08,520
the world who actually researched UFOs

858
00:38:13,069 --> 00:38:10,440
and have high credibility in the topic

859
00:38:15,890 --> 00:38:13,079
why would this guy be the guy speaking

860
00:38:19,970 --> 00:38:15,900
about this at when he has

861
00:38:22,190 --> 00:38:19,980
top top shelf Engineers on in this

862
00:38:24,230 --> 00:38:22,200
company and other people and they're

863
00:38:25,790 --> 00:38:24,240
saying we're going to show you the goods

864
00:38:27,349 --> 00:38:25,800
we've got the goods and we're going to

865
00:38:29,810 --> 00:38:27,359
open the kimono we're going to show you

866
00:38:32,150 --> 00:38:29,820
the stuff they never did and I knew they

867
00:38:36,170 --> 00:38:32,160
never would I knew they were just

868
00:38:40,490 --> 00:38:36,180
Putin in the wind well but but why is

869
00:38:42,589 --> 00:38:40,500
this the difficulty facing uh not only

870
00:38:46,609 --> 00:38:42,599
the agencies but the White House and the

871
00:38:51,230 --> 00:38:46,619
Pentagon uh with disclosure that they

872
00:38:53,270 --> 00:38:51,240
they do know uh an awful lot and if they

873
00:38:54,910 --> 00:38:53,280
start to open this up any further

874
00:38:58,550 --> 00:38:54,920
they're going to have to start

875
00:39:03,710 --> 00:38:58,560
explaining themselves and certainly uh

876
00:39:07,849 --> 00:39:05,810
yes

877
00:39:10,130 --> 00:39:07,859
but I think the

878
00:39:12,109 --> 00:39:10,140
perhaps doesn't get explored very often

879
00:39:14,510 --> 00:39:12,119
and it's creepy that's why it doesn't

880
00:39:18,109 --> 00:39:14,520
get explored because I think the

881
00:39:21,770 --> 00:39:18,119
ultimate truth in reality that was first

882
00:39:24,109 --> 00:39:21,780
discussed after World War II by Scholars

883
00:39:26,930 --> 00:39:24,119
looking into this

884
00:39:28,430 --> 00:39:26,940
new topic for Truman first and then

885
00:39:31,010 --> 00:39:28,440
Eisenhower

886
00:39:33,410 --> 00:39:31,020
that

887
00:39:36,470 --> 00:39:33,420
the fact is

888
00:39:39,589 --> 00:39:36,480
that as far as my research leads me to

889
00:39:42,470 --> 00:39:39,599
believe or know

890
00:39:45,230 --> 00:39:42,480
ETS have been living with humans since

891
00:39:48,730 --> 00:39:45,240
time immemorial and they've been shaping

892
00:39:51,230 --> 00:39:48,740
us to some extent they're basically

893
00:39:53,870 --> 00:39:51,240
non-interventive but they did show up to

894
00:39:56,210 --> 00:39:53,880
stop nuclear or at least alter nuclear

895
00:39:58,430 --> 00:39:56,220
proliferation

896
00:40:01,130 --> 00:39:58,440
so it doesn't tear shreds in the time

897
00:40:02,930 --> 00:40:01,140
space continuum and alter other planets

898
00:40:05,210 --> 00:40:02,940
galaxies dimensions

899
00:40:07,910 --> 00:40:05,220
but basically non-interference prime

900
00:40:10,010 --> 00:40:07,920
directive however the reality seems to

901
00:40:13,190 --> 00:40:10,020
be that they live and work amongst us

902
00:40:15,470 --> 00:40:13,200
and there's so much testimony on this at

903
00:40:17,089 --> 00:40:15,480
both the personal experiential level

904
00:40:19,069 --> 00:40:17,099
I've had people come up to me at

905
00:40:23,630 --> 00:40:19,079
conferences and such

906
00:40:25,730 --> 00:40:23,640
after shows like this contact me and say

907
00:40:28,370 --> 00:40:25,740
this weird thing happened and I knew

908
00:40:30,650 --> 00:40:28,380
this person when I was in school and

909
00:40:33,290 --> 00:40:30,660
here's a story I I knew this girl when I

910
00:40:35,150 --> 00:40:33,300
was in school she was very odd she had a

911
00:40:36,530 --> 00:40:35,160
pale complexion her hair was weird her

912
00:40:39,710 --> 00:40:36,540
eyes were weird she didn't go outside

913
00:40:41,510 --> 00:40:39,720
much and blah blah blah woof woof and

914
00:40:42,950 --> 00:40:41,520
then ultimately there are circumstances

915
00:40:45,230 --> 00:40:42,960
that lead the person to believe that in

916
00:40:47,050 --> 00:40:45,240
fact this person was not from this world

917
00:40:50,990 --> 00:40:47,060
was an alien of some kind or a hybrid

918
00:40:54,349 --> 00:40:51,000
and had substantiating proof for it also

919
00:40:56,210 --> 00:40:54,359
some some kind of documentation or proof

920
00:40:57,589 --> 00:40:56,220
which I wouldn't have today I I

921
00:40:59,329 --> 00:40:57,599
personally would not have today but they

922
00:41:01,310 --> 00:40:59,339
at the time would have to substantiate

923
00:41:02,810 --> 00:41:01,320
their claim okay so not just pull it out

924
00:41:04,370 --> 00:41:02,820
of the air yes some of these tails are

925
00:41:06,530 --> 00:41:04,380
pulled out of the air some of them are

926
00:41:08,930 --> 00:41:06,540
completely fabricated completely untrue

927
00:41:12,050 --> 00:41:08,940
but given the large quantity of

928
00:41:15,530 --> 00:41:12,060
anecdotes and reports

929
00:41:18,950 --> 00:41:15,540
and experiences it's it's almost like

930
00:41:20,810 --> 00:41:18,960
Drake's equation for this statistic out

931
00:41:22,310 --> 00:41:20,820
of all of those reports surely some of

932
00:41:24,349 --> 00:41:22,320
them are true it's almost impossible to

933
00:41:27,530 --> 00:41:24,359
believe that none of them is true unless

934
00:41:29,030 --> 00:41:27,540
the phenomenon really isn't true unless

935
00:41:30,950 --> 00:41:29,040
there really aren't UFOs and there

936
00:41:32,690 --> 00:41:30,960
really aren't et's but it's pretty clear

937
00:41:34,609 --> 00:41:32,700
to me that our government acknowledged

938
00:41:37,010 --> 00:41:34,619
the existence of both a long time ago

939
00:41:39,109 --> 00:41:37,020
and if our government believes it I tend

940
00:41:41,569 --> 00:41:39,119
to believe it so in fact it's not even a

941
00:41:44,750 --> 00:41:41,579
matter of belief because for me belief

942
00:41:46,190 --> 00:41:44,760
implies religion or faith and nothing

943
00:41:48,950 --> 00:41:46,200
wrong with that I have beliefs I have

944
00:41:52,670 --> 00:41:48,960
faith but and what I have faith in

945
00:41:55,490 --> 00:41:52,680
things but for me the UFO topic or

946
00:41:57,470 --> 00:41:55,500
phenomenon is science ultimately science

947
00:41:59,750 --> 00:41:57,480
and metaphysics physics and metaphysics

948
00:42:01,970 --> 00:41:59,760
and I think our government has known

949
00:42:04,550 --> 00:42:01,980
this for quite a long time when they

950
00:42:06,050 --> 00:42:04,560
discovered craft could not be piloted

951
00:42:08,510 --> 00:42:06,060
the craft they were trying to reverse

952
00:42:12,230 --> 00:42:08,520
engineer could not be piloted in some

953
00:42:14,630 --> 00:42:12,240
cases without a brain craft interface

954
00:42:17,170 --> 00:42:14,640
that the driver the pilot had to

955
00:42:19,849 --> 00:42:17,180
interface with the craft

956
00:42:22,310 --> 00:42:19,859
biometrically this is

957
00:42:24,950 --> 00:42:22,320
this kind of thinking that we are

958
00:42:28,270 --> 00:42:24,960
integrated with these other beings

959
00:42:31,790 --> 00:42:28,280
somehow they're integral to our society

960
00:42:35,569 --> 00:42:31,800
behind the scenes this is creepy to

961
00:42:38,270 --> 00:42:35,579
people and yet because I'm attuned to

962
00:42:40,370 --> 00:42:38,280
this thinking and that I allow easily to

963
00:42:43,849 --> 00:42:40,380
have aliens in the world

964
00:42:46,069 --> 00:42:43,859
I I guess you could say my sensors are

965
00:42:48,109 --> 00:42:46,079
open I'm receptive to the possibility

966
00:42:50,210 --> 00:42:48,119
that anyone I meet anywhere at any time

967
00:42:51,829 --> 00:42:50,220
might be an E.T and there have been

968
00:42:53,630 --> 00:42:51,839
times in my life I was convinced yes

969
00:42:55,910 --> 00:42:53,640
this person I'm talking to is definitely

970
00:42:59,329 --> 00:42:55,920
not completely human maybe not at all

971
00:43:01,430 --> 00:42:59,339
human just chance passing sometimes one

972
00:43:04,250 --> 00:43:01,440
in particular stands out my mind we

973
00:43:06,230 --> 00:43:04,260
started this was at a camp out lots of

974
00:43:08,510 --> 00:43:06,240
people there I'm wandering along with

975
00:43:12,349 --> 00:43:08,520
friends guys playing a guitar in an open

976
00:43:14,390 --> 00:43:12,359
field sitting on a log uh turns out we

977
00:43:16,970 --> 00:43:14,400
both had spent time in Colorado he

978
00:43:19,130 --> 00:43:16,980
started singing John Denver's song and

979
00:43:22,210 --> 00:43:19,140
I'm harmonizing with him and we're and

980
00:43:24,410 --> 00:43:22,220
he's making up filting lyrics

981
00:43:26,329 --> 00:43:24,420
about something we've been talking about

982
00:43:28,609 --> 00:43:26,339
and I'm following right along I'm right

983
00:43:30,290 --> 00:43:28,619
in his head I'm anticipating basically

984
00:43:32,510 --> 00:43:30,300
what he's about to say

985
00:43:33,470 --> 00:43:32,520
and we're singing along and after was

986
00:43:36,050 --> 00:43:33,480
over

987
00:43:39,050 --> 00:43:36,060
it was we had not rehearsed or practiced

988
00:43:41,329 --> 00:43:39,060
but it was a complicated rendition of a

989
00:43:42,770 --> 00:43:41,339
song that isn't easy to begin with and

990
00:43:44,089 --> 00:43:42,780
then walked away never to see each other

991
00:43:46,430 --> 00:43:44,099
again but basically in parting I said

992
00:43:48,230 --> 00:43:46,440
you seem very familiar to me as if we'd

993
00:43:50,510 --> 00:43:48,240
met before and he said I feel the same

994
00:43:53,870 --> 00:43:52,309
yeah

995
00:43:55,430 --> 00:43:53,880
the the

996
00:44:01,270 --> 00:43:55,440
um the

997
00:44:05,210 --> 00:44:01,280
the knowledge of this if if this was

998
00:44:08,150 --> 00:44:05,220
mentioned in an official capacity that

999
00:44:09,589 --> 00:44:08,160
yeah E.T okay yes flying saucers are

1000
00:44:14,150 --> 00:44:09,599
real but

1001
00:44:15,650 --> 00:44:14,160
uh they are actually Among Us is that is

1002
00:44:18,290 --> 00:44:15,660
that something that the world can handle

1003
00:44:20,569 --> 00:44:18,300
or is that a step too far too fast is

1004
00:44:23,569 --> 00:44:20,579
that getting well you absolutely can

1005
00:44:25,370 --> 00:44:23,579
handle yes yes yes and I'll tell you I

1006
00:44:28,370 --> 00:44:25,380
always like to say I ask what if at this

1007
00:44:31,190 --> 00:44:28,380
point what if the CIA had spent those

1008
00:44:33,410 --> 00:44:31,200
billions and trillions of dollars

1009
00:44:35,990 --> 00:44:33,420
prepping people for the existence of

1010
00:44:38,930 --> 00:44:36,000
UFOs whether for positive for neutral or

1011
00:44:41,210 --> 00:44:38,940
for negative in other words for the most

1012
00:44:42,530 --> 00:44:41,220
part they're benign for the most part

1013
00:44:44,569 --> 00:44:42,540
they're positive for the most part

1014
00:44:46,550 --> 00:44:44,579
they're negative so watch out you know

1015
00:44:50,089 --> 00:44:46,560
the CIA could have taken a much

1016
00:44:52,309 --> 00:44:50,099
different position from the get-go but

1017
00:44:55,670 --> 00:44:52,319
it didn't the CIA was formed with the

1018
00:44:59,210 --> 00:44:55,680
express purpose of using muscle

1019
00:45:00,710 --> 00:44:59,220
Force to stop conversation reasonable

1020
00:45:03,050 --> 00:45:00,720
and intelligent conversation about

1021
00:45:04,849 --> 00:45:03,060
anything having to do with UFOs and they

1022
00:45:06,170 --> 00:45:04,859
killed people who didn't stop talking

1023
00:45:08,809 --> 00:45:06,180
about it

1024
00:45:10,190 --> 00:45:08,819
I'm thinking about Forrestal first head

1025
00:45:12,650 --> 00:45:10,200
of the Navy

1026
00:45:15,410 --> 00:45:12,660
who wouldn't stop talking about it so

1027
00:45:16,910 --> 00:45:15,420
they declared him mentally uh well

1028
00:45:18,349 --> 00:45:16,920
depressed he had clinical depression

1029
00:45:20,510 --> 00:45:18,359
they put him in Mayo Clinic and then

1030
00:45:22,550 --> 00:45:20,520
showed him out a window

1031
00:45:24,530 --> 00:45:22,560
pretty much I mean that's the story I

1032
00:45:26,270 --> 00:45:24,540
believe it's not the official report but

1033
00:45:28,250 --> 00:45:26,280
you get them out of the way and so many

1034
00:45:30,710 --> 00:45:28,260
voices have been silenced over the year

1035
00:45:32,750 --> 00:45:30,720
what if those voices had been supported

1036
00:45:34,309 --> 00:45:32,760
what if they'd been encouraged what have

1037
00:45:37,089 --> 00:45:34,319
been what if all those people who were

1038
00:45:39,230 --> 00:45:37,099
hooted down had been thrust forward as

1039
00:45:42,290 --> 00:45:39,240
experts in their field subject matter

1040
00:45:46,790 --> 00:45:42,300
experts what if the CIA had run

1041
00:45:49,450 --> 00:45:46,800
campaigns and commercials about not not

1042
00:45:53,510 --> 00:45:49,460
as sugary necessarily as

1043
00:45:56,089 --> 00:45:53,520
E.T the movie phone home that whole

1044
00:45:58,190 --> 00:45:56,099
relationship but maybe yeah what can I

1045
00:46:00,170 --> 00:45:58,200
say what about painting the real picture

1046
00:46:01,609 --> 00:46:00,180
of what's really going on that would

1047
00:46:04,809 --> 00:46:01,619
have been refreshing

1048
00:46:10,670 --> 00:46:04,819
you know yeah and and and

1049
00:46:15,770 --> 00:46:10,680
if we forget about you know in 1980 1970

1050
00:46:19,210 --> 00:46:15,780
to 2023 when we go back and look at the

1051
00:46:24,430 --> 00:46:19,220
reports and the sightings uh before

1052
00:46:28,970 --> 00:46:24,440
1950 of of absolutely Fantastical

1053
00:46:31,970 --> 00:46:28,980
phenomenal sightings and speed and uh

1054
00:46:34,450 --> 00:46:31,980
things that those weren't in the sky

1055
00:46:37,069 --> 00:46:34,460
back then we didn't have that technology

1056
00:46:39,050 --> 00:46:37,079
exactly yeah that's why I like to

1057
00:46:41,690 --> 00:46:39,060
research that period yeah because

1058
00:46:44,150 --> 00:46:41,700
there's just no question that that what

1059
00:46:46,309 --> 00:46:44,160
they were seeing or experiencing or

1060
00:46:48,290 --> 00:46:46,319
Genuine UFOs not reverse engineered

1061
00:46:50,089 --> 00:46:48,300
human UFOs go ahead sorry yeah no but

1062
00:46:53,690 --> 00:46:50,099
that's exactly the point because today

1063
00:46:55,670 --> 00:46:53,700
we have way too much technology it's

1064
00:46:57,970 --> 00:46:55,680
just everywhere and what about the

1065
00:47:00,589 --> 00:46:57,980
medieval paintings

1066
00:47:02,390 --> 00:47:00,599
in fact I saw some of these paintings in

1067
00:47:05,510 --> 00:47:02,400
Europe I had the great Fortune to study

1068
00:47:08,089 --> 00:47:05,520
abroad as a junior in college and I had

1069
00:47:09,950 --> 00:47:08,099
the great Fortune to tour around and and

1070
00:47:11,150 --> 00:47:09,960
I over I've always liked museums and

1071
00:47:13,430 --> 00:47:11,160
collections of books and things like

1072
00:47:16,130 --> 00:47:13,440
that Antiquities if you will

1073
00:47:18,849 --> 00:47:16,140
and

1074
00:47:21,770 --> 00:47:18,859
sorry what were you talking about

1075
00:47:23,329 --> 00:47:21,780
some Renaissance oh yeah the paintings

1076
00:47:24,829 --> 00:47:23,339
so I was looking at paintings

1077
00:47:25,970 --> 00:47:24,839
we hear about UFOs or anything I'm just

1078
00:47:27,950 --> 00:47:25,980
wandering along and here's one of these

1079
00:47:30,170 --> 00:47:27,960
ones that people talk about today it's

1080
00:47:34,190 --> 00:47:30,180
the one where a lot of these paintings

1081
00:47:36,050 --> 00:47:34,200
were had to be religious so in the and a

1082
00:47:37,609 --> 00:47:36,060
lot of them are a central panel and then

1083
00:47:39,470 --> 00:47:37,619
side panels

1084
00:47:41,690 --> 00:47:39,480
okay so structurally and I was into

1085
00:47:44,150 --> 00:47:41,700
stained glass at the time Architectural

1086
00:47:46,190 --> 00:47:44,160
Glass so these kinds of so you have

1087
00:47:47,930 --> 00:47:46,200
paintings kind of symbolic or

1088
00:47:50,150 --> 00:47:47,940
representing in the shapes of stained

1089
00:47:51,530 --> 00:47:50,160
glass windows where they have a curve at

1090
00:47:53,569 --> 00:47:51,540
the top they come to a curve at the top

1091
00:47:55,910 --> 00:47:53,579
and then there's side panels that also

1092
00:47:59,410 --> 00:47:55,920
curve so you get Madonna and child in

1093
00:48:02,089 --> 00:47:59,420
the middle quite often and then

1094
00:48:03,770 --> 00:48:02,099
cortisons or whoever commissioned the

1095
00:48:06,470 --> 00:48:03,780
painting their family and friends

1096
00:48:08,690 --> 00:48:06,480
hanging around the side panels or a

1097
00:48:11,210 --> 00:48:08,700
nature scene or a hunting scene or some

1098
00:48:13,730 --> 00:48:11,220
other thing going on that's a little

1099
00:48:16,430 --> 00:48:13,740
less religious a little more secular

1100
00:48:18,109 --> 00:48:16,440
well in one of these paintings there's a

1101
00:48:20,450 --> 00:48:18,119
guy in one of us in the background

1102
00:48:24,650 --> 00:48:20,460
basically walking his dog he's out with

1103
00:48:28,490 --> 00:48:24,660
his dog both are looking up in the sky

1104
00:48:31,010 --> 00:48:28,500
the dog has a pointed snout that's

1105
00:48:32,210 --> 00:48:31,020
making a triangle basically up toward

1106
00:48:33,770 --> 00:48:32,220
this thing they're looking at and

1107
00:48:38,530 --> 00:48:33,780
they're looking at what his own can only

1108
00:48:41,930 --> 00:48:38,540
be described as a hat-shaped UF UFO and

1109
00:48:43,130 --> 00:48:41,940
when Scholars started analyzing these

1110
00:48:45,109 --> 00:48:43,140
pictures when people were started saying

1111
00:48:46,970 --> 00:48:45,119
what what is that thing in the sky in

1112
00:48:51,609 --> 00:48:46,980
that painting this guy was saying well

1113
00:48:55,550 --> 00:48:51,619
it's you know it's an odd-shaped bird

1114
00:48:57,530 --> 00:48:55,560
it's uh the planet Venus it's swamp gas

1115
00:48:59,450 --> 00:48:57,540
I mean it's like they had red heinek

1116
00:49:01,550 --> 00:48:59,460
before heinek made those crap little

1117
00:49:03,530 --> 00:49:01,560
proclamations hundreds of years later

1118
00:49:04,849 --> 00:49:03,540
but they were just at a loss they didn't

1119
00:49:06,170 --> 00:49:04,859
know well anybody who knows anything

1120
00:49:07,970 --> 00:49:06,180
about UFOs is looking at that they're

1121
00:49:10,069 --> 00:49:07,980
going it's UFOs and then there's another

1122
00:49:12,109 --> 00:49:10,079
one where there's one ship in the

1123
00:49:14,450 --> 00:49:12,119
central panel being chased by another

1124
00:49:16,250 --> 00:49:14,460
ship it'd be this way to you one ship

1125
00:49:17,990 --> 00:49:16,260
here and then behind it chasing it the

1126
00:49:19,670 --> 00:49:18,000
action's going this way the ship are

1127
00:49:22,010 --> 00:49:19,680
going this way and the guy in front is

1128
00:49:24,970 --> 00:49:22,020
looking around behind like oh sh oh

1129
00:49:27,710 --> 00:49:24,980
shoot how close is he

1130
00:49:30,470 --> 00:49:27,720
and people Scholars were saying no no no

1131
00:49:33,530 --> 00:49:30,480
it isn't what it obviously is they were

1132
00:49:35,750 --> 00:49:33,540
saying these are other things that are

1133
00:49:37,910 --> 00:49:35,760
being misinterpreted yeah and in

1134
00:49:39,950 --> 00:49:37,920
Egyptian in the Egyptian cave paintings

1135
00:49:41,450 --> 00:49:39,960
it was always stylized flowers those

1136
00:49:43,790 --> 00:49:41,460
light bulbs that are plugged in those

1137
00:49:46,190 --> 00:49:43,800
huge light bulbs with filaments inside

1138
00:49:49,069 --> 00:49:46,200
them those are stylized flowers

1139
00:49:51,770 --> 00:49:49,079
yeah right I've seen that I I've seen

1140
00:49:54,950 --> 00:49:51,780
that in person and I can tell you what

1141
00:49:57,950 --> 00:49:54,960
it's not it's not a lotus flower what

1142
00:50:00,770 --> 00:49:57,960
about the Nuremberg wood cut right and

1143
00:50:04,430 --> 00:50:00,780
and yeah that's crazy that's one of my

1144
00:50:07,309 --> 00:50:04,440
favorite examples that is a battle in

1145
00:50:10,609 --> 00:50:07,319
the sky which is what they were

1146
00:50:15,349 --> 00:50:10,619
depicting and it's cylinders and

1147
00:50:18,410 --> 00:50:15,359
triangles and balls and explosions crazy

1148
00:50:22,010 --> 00:50:18,420
assortment of shapes yep yep yep yep yep

1149
00:50:25,069 --> 00:50:22,020
yep smoldering buildings yeah yeah

1150
00:50:25,930 --> 00:50:25,079
explosions apparently debris fell to the

1151
00:50:28,730 --> 00:50:25,940
ground

1152
00:50:31,730 --> 00:50:28,740
eyewitness accounts what was in the sky

1153
00:50:33,829 --> 00:50:31,740
back then in 1500 just somebody an

1154
00:50:35,990 --> 00:50:33,839
aerial battle took place according to

1155
00:50:39,230 --> 00:50:36,000
eyewitnesses that's right that's right

1156
00:50:41,990 --> 00:50:39,240
and you know so somebody in the 1500s

1157
00:50:43,849 --> 00:50:42,000
wasn't it uh yeah 1500.

1158
00:50:46,190 --> 00:50:43,859
um somebody just explained to me what

1159
00:50:49,089 --> 00:50:46,200
they were seeing in the sky and then we

1160
00:50:52,010 --> 00:50:49,099
can move on but until then

1161
00:50:54,230 --> 00:50:52,020
right and and that was their version of

1162
00:50:57,829 --> 00:50:54,240
the Polaroid you know they have to right

1163
00:51:00,530 --> 00:50:57,839
and and get this done and and that was a

1164
00:51:03,710 --> 00:51:00,540
wood cut so it could get printed right

1165
00:51:05,329 --> 00:51:03,720
and so yeah yeah I'm I've always been

1166
00:51:07,609 --> 00:51:05,339
fascinated with that and so the

1167
00:51:10,010 --> 00:51:07,619
government to say today well we know

1168
00:51:12,470 --> 00:51:10,020
nothing now I think that they know a

1169
00:51:15,049 --> 00:51:12,480
whole lot it's just tons I know tons and

1170
00:51:18,109 --> 00:51:15,059
tons of tons and so for you to ask

1171
00:51:19,790 --> 00:51:18,119
could the public accept yes the public

1172
00:51:20,990 --> 00:51:19,800
will accept anything if it's presented

1173
00:51:23,630 --> 00:51:21,000
the right way

1174
00:51:25,490 --> 00:51:23,640
the public unfortunate the majority of

1175
00:51:27,890 --> 00:51:25,500
the public don't question much I'm

1176
00:51:29,690 --> 00:51:27,900
saying I'm sorry to say I was raised to

1177
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:29,700
question authority

1178
00:51:32,150 --> 00:51:30,490
and I do

1179
00:51:35,089 --> 00:51:32,160
[Laughter]

1180
00:51:37,490 --> 00:51:35,099
right not everybody does and a lot of

1181
00:51:38,569 --> 00:51:37,500
people claim they don't have time or

1182
00:51:40,849 --> 00:51:38,579
interest

1183
00:51:43,250 --> 00:51:40,859
and in fact perhaps they don't who I

1184
00:51:44,870 --> 00:51:43,260
might say they don't but they don't take

1185
00:51:47,930 --> 00:51:44,880
the interest that you and I do in these

1186
00:51:50,870 --> 00:51:47,940
topics so what they believe what they're

1187
00:51:52,130 --> 00:51:50,880
told basically sure sure why do you

1188
00:51:55,190 --> 00:51:52,140
think

1189
00:51:58,130 --> 00:51:55,200
um there seems to be well doesn't seem

1190
00:52:00,049 --> 00:51:58,140
to be this is the way it's been going

1191
00:52:02,270 --> 00:52:00,059
um that we only want to hear from the

1192
00:52:05,270 --> 00:52:02,280
military on this you know military

1193
00:52:09,049 --> 00:52:05,280
pilots and the military take on this and

1194
00:52:11,930 --> 00:52:09,059
and so forth when we have so much

1195
00:52:14,270 --> 00:52:11,940
information and eyewitness and and

1196
00:52:16,790 --> 00:52:14,280
imagery and everything else from the

1197
00:52:18,470 --> 00:52:16,800
citizens of this country but uh we're

1198
00:52:21,290 --> 00:52:18,480
not hearing from them why do you think

1199
00:52:23,450 --> 00:52:21,300
that is well I think it's the next phase

1200
00:52:26,809 --> 00:52:23,460
of military industrial control over the

1201
00:52:29,270 --> 00:52:26,819
entire topic of UFOs now uaps but you've

1202
00:52:30,829 --> 00:52:29,280
raised the excellent point of the

1203
00:52:33,890 --> 00:52:30,839
disparagement the current disparagement

1204
00:52:35,630 --> 00:52:33,900
of the civilian scientists that's the

1205
00:52:38,270 --> 00:52:35,640
term they're using now the civilian

1206
00:52:40,849 --> 00:52:38,280
scientists so that would be Eric Von

1207
00:52:42,589 --> 00:52:40,859
Donegan one of the original civilian

1208
00:52:46,130 --> 00:52:42,599
scientists that would be you and me

1209
00:52:49,370 --> 00:52:46,140
we're civilian scientists so is a

1210
00:52:51,950 --> 00:52:49,380
scientist a person with a degree is in

1211
00:52:56,089 --> 00:52:51,960
other words what constitutes a scientist

1212
00:52:58,250 --> 00:52:56,099
Avi Loeb he's a Harvard scientist does

1213
00:53:01,309 --> 00:52:58,260
that an astronomer at Harvard does that

1214
00:53:04,010 --> 00:53:01,319
put him in the position of being a

1215
00:53:07,309 --> 00:53:04,020
pundit for astronomy and aerial

1216
00:53:09,589 --> 00:53:07,319
phenomenon apparently the globalists

1217
00:53:11,270 --> 00:53:09,599
think it does because he's his views are

1218
00:53:13,250 --> 00:53:11,280
promoted all the time in in the

1219
00:53:16,069 --> 00:53:13,260
mainstream media certain voices get

1220
00:53:19,549 --> 00:53:16,079
heard certain voices never get heard

1221
00:53:23,089 --> 00:53:19,559
uh Graham Hancock has just released his

1222
00:53:24,829 --> 00:53:23,099
movie or documentary miniseries and it's

1223
00:53:27,290 --> 00:53:24,839
great of course it's great because it's

1224
00:53:30,589 --> 00:53:27,300
Graham Hancock why isn't he a household

1225
00:53:33,109 --> 00:53:30,599
word on the topic of UFOs and and the

1226
00:53:35,690 --> 00:53:33,119
research of human origin which is by the

1227
00:53:37,430 --> 00:53:35,700
way my passion human origin and it was

1228
00:53:39,230 --> 00:53:37,440
the study of human origin that led me to

1229
00:53:42,049 --> 00:53:39,240
UFOs

1230
00:53:44,030 --> 00:53:42,059
yeah I'm the same way well it's all

1231
00:53:46,910 --> 00:53:44,040
connected though Gene yes it's all

1232
00:53:48,950 --> 00:53:46,920
connected oh everything is connected and

1233
00:53:51,290 --> 00:53:48,960
everything goes back to UFO close in

1234
00:53:55,370 --> 00:53:51,300
human origin everything does to me which

1235
00:53:59,089 --> 00:53:55,380
is why to me the Revelation that ET is

1236
00:54:01,010 --> 00:53:59,099
Among Us they come to visit also we're a

1237
00:54:02,510 --> 00:54:01,020
science experiment to them or a bunch of

1238
00:54:05,150 --> 00:54:02,520
them that at one point I read there's

1239
00:54:07,490 --> 00:54:05,160
hundreds of science experiments run by

1240
00:54:09,470 --> 00:54:07,500
different alien societies here on Earth

1241
00:54:11,750 --> 00:54:09,480
they have different attitudes toward

1242
00:54:13,730 --> 00:54:11,760
humans and different interests and the

1243
00:54:15,950 --> 00:54:13,740
purposes of their experiments vary as

1244
00:54:17,809 --> 00:54:15,960
you would expect okay so some are well

1245
00:54:19,730 --> 00:54:17,819
disposed toward humans some really don't

1246
00:54:22,130 --> 00:54:19,740
care one way or the other and the others

1247
00:54:23,690 --> 00:54:22,140
hate us and just what's you know just as

1248
00:54:27,410 --> 00:54:23,700
soon would see it as dead or in their

1249
00:54:29,930 --> 00:54:27,420
digestive systems right the idea that

1250
00:54:32,690 --> 00:54:29,940
they live work exist amongst us for me

1251
00:54:35,510 --> 00:54:32,700
is quite palatable because I have an

1252
00:54:37,670 --> 00:54:35,520
affinity for my clan of star people and

1253
00:54:39,829 --> 00:54:37,680
others that are Friendlies with them and

1254
00:54:42,530 --> 00:54:39,839
I have an aversion to the Clans or

1255
00:54:44,630 --> 00:54:42,540
species that don't like humans because

1256
00:54:49,069 --> 00:54:44,640
right now I'm in a human form and I came

1257
00:54:51,950 --> 00:54:49,079
to help Earth and human people right so

1258
00:54:54,890 --> 00:54:51,960
I think it would be very be very easy to

1259
00:54:57,650 --> 00:54:54,900
sway human opinion Mass opinion to think

1260
00:54:59,630 --> 00:54:57,660
favorably of E.T if that's the desired

1261
00:55:01,670 --> 00:54:59,640
objective but it's not clear to me that

1262
00:55:04,730 --> 00:55:01,680
all ETR friendlies in fact it's clear

1263
00:55:07,390 --> 00:55:04,740
they're not all friendlies so how then

1264
00:55:11,390 --> 00:55:07,400
does a government agency

1265
00:55:14,030 --> 00:55:11,400
regulate thought about a phenomenon such

1266
00:55:16,190 --> 00:55:14,040
as UFOs can the government regulate

1267
00:55:19,790 --> 00:55:16,200
thought when we know from firsthand

1268
00:55:22,010 --> 00:55:19,800
reports these intelligences these beings

1269
00:55:24,470 --> 00:55:22,020
are entirely capable of communicating

1270
00:55:26,450 --> 00:55:24,480
with humans when they want to and they

1271
00:55:28,809 --> 00:55:26,460
can also do what they want when they

1272
00:55:32,390 --> 00:55:28,819
want to here

1273
00:55:35,089 --> 00:55:32,400
for those out there Gene that go why

1274
00:55:36,770 --> 00:55:35,099
would they come in uh cattle mutilations

1275
00:55:39,349 --> 00:55:36,780
why would they do why would they abduct

1276
00:55:41,809 --> 00:55:39,359
him why would they you know Betty and

1277
00:55:44,870 --> 00:55:41,819
Barney why would they do this to Travis

1278
00:55:47,809 --> 00:55:44,880
Walton let me explain something the

1279
00:55:49,910 --> 00:55:47,819
first chance we got when we are

1280
00:55:54,410 --> 00:55:49,920
Interstellar and we're visiting other

1281
00:55:57,530 --> 00:55:54,420
planets we'll be doing the same thing I

1282
00:55:59,809 --> 00:55:57,540
guarantee it I guarantee it hey check

1283
00:56:03,770 --> 00:55:59,819
that out that little creature grab it

1284
00:56:06,530 --> 00:56:03,780
boom on board do yourself yeah do it now

1285
00:56:08,329 --> 00:56:06,540
on Earth we do it now biology field

1286
00:56:13,750 --> 00:56:08,339
biologists think about marine biology

1287
00:56:19,370 --> 00:56:16,490
yeah what about sea world that's a

1288
00:56:23,210 --> 00:56:19,380
perfect example but we're okay with that

1289
00:56:25,069 --> 00:56:23,220
right are we not everybody is but no

1290
00:56:28,130 --> 00:56:25,079
what I'm saying is we're okay with it

1291
00:56:30,109 --> 00:56:28,140
but yeah it's an established cultural

1292
00:56:32,990 --> 00:56:30,119
institution right right right right

1293
00:56:35,150 --> 00:56:33,000
right we can't use that as a comparison

1294
00:56:38,870 --> 00:56:35,160
Jimmy what do you mean we can't it's the

1295
00:56:42,109 --> 00:56:38,880
exact same we are taking moms away from

1296
00:56:45,470 --> 00:56:42,119
their children right we're literally

1297
00:56:50,750 --> 00:56:47,809
and when we go Interstellar we'll be

1298
00:56:53,930 --> 00:56:50,760
doing it then too so why why the big

1299
00:56:58,510 --> 00:56:53,940
question of would ET be doing this not

1300
00:57:01,549 --> 00:56:58,520
all but I would understand if they did

1301
00:57:03,710 --> 00:57:01,559
I'm not I'm not at all opposed to it it

1302
00:57:06,410 --> 00:57:03,720
just makes sense I think one of the most

1303
00:57:08,870 --> 00:57:06,420
potent forces in the universe is and in

1304
00:57:11,690 --> 00:57:08,880
all existence is curiosity

1305
00:57:12,589 --> 00:57:11,700
and I think a lot of what is going on on

1306
00:57:16,309 --> 00:57:12,599
Earth

1307
00:57:17,870 --> 00:57:16,319
right now and historically is driven by

1308
00:57:21,609 --> 00:57:17,880
curiosity

1309
00:57:24,349 --> 00:57:21,619
what I think Earth is a big what if

1310
00:57:26,630 --> 00:57:24,359
experimental experimental station what

1311
00:57:27,770 --> 00:57:26,640
if what if we just alter the variables a

1312
00:57:29,510 --> 00:57:27,780
little bit this way

1313
00:57:32,210 --> 00:57:29,520
and I've read a couple of very

1314
00:57:33,770 --> 00:57:32,220
interesting accounts of how Earth was

1315
00:57:40,730 --> 00:57:33,780
formed

1316
00:57:44,750 --> 00:57:40,740
alien species to achieve

1317
00:57:47,210 --> 00:57:44,760
where we are today and how humans were

1318
00:57:51,109 --> 00:57:47,220
originally engineered

1319
00:57:54,049 --> 00:57:51,119
to be non-reproductive which meant that

1320
00:57:56,750 --> 00:57:54,059
the species that bioengineered us and

1321
00:57:59,690 --> 00:57:56,760
put us on Earth to cultivate us

1322
00:58:02,690 --> 00:57:59,700
basically as a species had to come back

1323
00:58:05,510 --> 00:58:02,700
periodically to replenish the stock so

1324
00:58:08,030 --> 00:58:05,520
because we would die off and then a

1325
00:58:10,790 --> 00:58:08,040
decision was made basically the client

1326
00:58:12,710 --> 00:58:10,800
who ordered human beings on Earth said

1327
00:58:15,170 --> 00:58:12,720
we don't want to pay the contract

1328
00:58:17,390 --> 00:58:15,180
anymore to maintain this species so we

1329
00:58:20,990 --> 00:58:17,400
don't care if they die off but other

1330
00:58:22,910 --> 00:58:21,000
species of ETS and intelligences in the

1331
00:58:26,770 --> 00:58:22,920
universe has said oh no no we can't let

1332
00:58:29,930 --> 00:58:26,780
the humans go they're too precious

1333
00:58:32,329 --> 00:58:29,940
so let's give them reproduction sure

1334
00:58:35,450 --> 00:58:32,339
there was a big debate about that oh no

1335
00:58:37,849 --> 00:58:35,460
no no we shouldn't do that but they did

1336
00:58:39,410 --> 00:58:37,859
and so we got reproduction that may be

1337
00:58:40,549 --> 00:58:39,420
behind the story of Adam and Eve

1338
00:58:42,349 --> 00:58:40,559
actually although I have other ideas

1339
00:58:44,329 --> 00:58:42,359
about that as well but at some point in

1340
00:58:46,549 --> 00:58:44,339
our history we became capable of

1341
00:58:48,710 --> 00:58:46,559
reproduction and at that point the ETS

1342
00:58:51,530 --> 00:58:48,720
who would bioengineered to stop coming

1343
00:58:53,870 --> 00:58:51,540
to Earth they didn't have to anymore and

1344
00:58:56,390 --> 00:58:53,880
that's when things that was really the

1345
00:58:59,210 --> 00:58:56,400
beginning of the population situation we

1346
00:59:01,670 --> 00:58:59,220
faced today which is

1347
00:59:03,650 --> 00:59:01,680
some people say we're overpopulated on

1348
00:59:06,230 --> 00:59:03,660
Earth some people say we could sustain

1349
00:59:08,750 --> 00:59:06,240
the population if we allocated resources

1350
00:59:10,549 --> 00:59:08,760
differently Elon Musk and some people

1351
00:59:13,190 --> 00:59:10,559
are saying we are actually in a

1352
00:59:15,049 --> 00:59:13,200
depopulation curve and buses came out

1353
00:59:19,609 --> 00:59:15,059
and said I think in 10 or 20 years we're

1354
00:59:23,329 --> 00:59:20,990
deflation

1355
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that there will be so many old people

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00:59:29,510 --> 00:59:25,559
and not enough young people to take care

1357
00:59:31,549 --> 00:59:29,520
of them or sustain their economies there

1358
00:59:34,609 --> 00:59:31,559
will be a collapsible a global economic

1359
00:59:37,789 --> 00:59:34,619
collapse there will come a time I'm

1360
00:59:42,589 --> 00:59:37,799
going to make a prediction uh 500 to a

1361
00:59:45,650 --> 00:59:42,599
thousand years from now we will be fully

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00:59:48,589 --> 00:59:45,660
Interstellar and and we we know about

1363
00:59:51,109 --> 00:59:48,599
the limitations of this planet this is

1364
00:59:56,809 --> 00:59:51,119
what we will be doing we're going to be

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00:59:58,809 --> 00:59:56,819
building ships full of DNA and life and

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01:00:01,730 --> 00:59:58,819
sending them out

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01:00:05,809 --> 01:00:01,740
send them in and if the if the ship

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01:00:07,549 --> 01:00:05,819
finds something that is habitable

1369
01:00:12,770 --> 01:00:07,559
ship's gonna

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blow a uh a seed right and and terraform

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01:00:20,569 --> 01:00:17,040
and and and get life going so Humanity

1372
01:00:23,210 --> 01:00:20,579
can continue once we burn this thing to

1373
01:00:26,569 --> 01:00:23,220
the ground well that's more or less what

1374
01:00:29,690 --> 01:00:26,579
musk has said has promised Earth is that

1375
01:00:31,849 --> 01:00:29,700
we we will colonize Mars under his

1376
01:00:35,930 --> 01:00:31,859
Direction and the direction of SpaceX

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01:00:38,329 --> 01:00:35,940
the hardware of SpaceX we will colonize

1378
01:00:40,970 --> 01:00:38,339
Mars to preserve the human species

1379
01:00:43,450 --> 01:00:40,980
should we mess up Earth to the point

1380
01:00:46,370 --> 01:00:43,460
where it becomes no longer habitable

1381
01:00:50,089 --> 01:00:46,380
well if there's a population implosion

1382
01:00:52,789 --> 01:00:50,099
coming I don't see that that's an issue

1383
01:00:55,490 --> 01:00:52,799
necessarily and if we can't handle our

1384
01:00:58,010 --> 01:00:55,500
own home planet what makes us fit to go

1385
01:01:01,190 --> 01:00:58,020
trash other planets

1386
01:01:03,410 --> 01:01:01,200
just saying just saying

1387
01:01:06,289 --> 01:01:03,420
is there doesn't seem to be a bit

1388
01:01:08,809 --> 01:01:06,299
Escapist to say hey we can't handle it

1389
01:01:11,930 --> 01:01:08,819
on Earth we can't manage it here

1390
01:01:14,089 --> 01:01:11,940
so let's go to Mars just to make sure

1391
01:01:16,970 --> 01:01:14,099
there's humans left over should things

1392
01:01:18,849 --> 01:01:16,980
go horribly wrong on earth right or or

1393
01:01:22,190 --> 01:01:18,859
really really

1394
01:01:24,250 --> 01:01:22,200
make it a Club Med you know and I'm not

1395
01:01:27,170 --> 01:01:24,260
saying don't go to Mars sorry go ahead

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01:01:28,849 --> 01:01:27,180
it'll be a Club Med for the Rich and

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01:01:31,190 --> 01:01:28,859
Famous

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yeah yeah think about it let's take our

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01:01:36,289 --> 01:01:33,180
break right here our guest night Jean

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Broda is with us this is Fade to Black

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stay with us we'll be right back

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01:01:43,670 --> 01:01:41,339
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the show and Gene one of the uh more uh

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01:06:11,690 --> 01:06:07,400
oh you need to unmute yourself that's uh

1508
01:06:16,970 --> 01:06:11,700
you need there Gekko um the

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01:06:18,589 --> 01:06:16,980
um the human Origins aspect of of us is

1510
01:06:20,150 --> 01:06:18,599
something that has been completely

1511
01:06:22,730 --> 01:06:20,160
covered up

1512
01:06:25,130 --> 01:06:22,740
talk about a taboo topic right and if

1513
01:06:27,890 --> 01:06:25,140
you're in Academia

1514
01:06:29,990 --> 01:06:27,900
um you're not allowed to explore or step

1515
01:06:32,089 --> 01:06:30,000
outside of the box

1516
01:06:35,210 --> 01:06:32,099
um and there's so many examples around

1517
01:06:39,289 --> 01:06:35,220
this planet uh that that show us things

1518
01:06:42,230 --> 01:06:39,299
but but why is this such a concern with

1519
01:06:44,630 --> 01:06:42,240
the establishment the man to keep this

1520
01:06:47,450 --> 01:06:44,640
stuff hidden from us

1521
01:06:51,410 --> 01:06:47,460
well that's another great question and

1522
01:06:52,370 --> 01:06:51,420
again it's not clear in my mind why

1523
01:06:53,450 --> 01:06:52,380
except

1524
01:06:56,510 --> 01:06:53,460
power

1525
01:06:59,150 --> 01:06:56,520
money control

1526
01:07:01,250 --> 01:06:59,160
globalism these are

1527
01:07:03,890 --> 01:07:01,260
short and short one-word answers but

1528
01:07:05,870 --> 01:07:03,900
what else could it be

1529
01:07:11,390 --> 01:07:05,880
I mean

1530
01:07:16,849 --> 01:07:14,329
not very eloquent but I think there is I

1531
01:07:18,470 --> 01:07:16,859
don't think it's very deep I think they

1532
01:07:19,430 --> 01:07:18,480
want they want it and they don't want us

1533
01:07:22,569 --> 01:07:19,440
to have it

1534
01:07:25,430 --> 01:07:22,579
being knowledge technology

1535
01:07:29,150 --> 01:07:25,440
but things like

1536
01:07:33,230 --> 01:07:29,160
um uh that are getting discovered every

1537
01:07:35,210 --> 01:07:33,240
day and uh one of the uh subjects that I

1538
01:07:38,450 --> 01:07:35,220
talk about a lot on the show is go back

1539
01:07:40,549 --> 01:07:38,460
Lee tappy and and my sign off every

1540
01:07:43,549 --> 01:07:40,559
night on Coast to Coast AM was always go

1541
01:07:45,529 --> 01:07:43,559
Beckley Tepe my sign off here is go back

1542
01:07:49,430 --> 01:07:45,539
Lee tappy I put it in all of my

1543
01:07:53,210 --> 01:07:49,440
commercials and and and uh raising the

1544
01:07:57,430 --> 01:07:53,220
awareness of it because uh Gobekli Tepe

1545
01:08:00,890 --> 01:07:57,440
is an example of uh Academia for

1546
01:08:04,730 --> 01:08:00,900
forever said everything started in

1547
01:08:07,069 --> 01:08:04,740
Mesopotamia everything started in Giza

1548
01:08:09,770 --> 01:08:07,079
3000 BC that's it there's nothing else

1549
01:08:13,190 --> 01:08:09,780
to see here and then go back Lee Tepe

1550
01:08:16,669 --> 01:08:13,200
comes along at 7 000 years older than

1551
01:08:21,169 --> 01:08:16,679
Giza not 7 000 years old seven thousand

1552
01:08:23,090 --> 01:08:21,179
years older than a Mesopotamia and it

1553
01:08:25,970 --> 01:08:23,100
wasn't supposed to exist and certainly

1554
01:08:29,090 --> 01:08:25,980
that rewrites history but it's not

1555
01:08:32,150 --> 01:08:29,100
headline news like it should be and

1556
01:08:34,010 --> 01:08:32,160
that's an example of things that are

1557
01:08:35,450 --> 01:08:34,020
going to be and continue to be

1558
01:08:37,550 --> 01:08:35,460
discovered right

1559
01:08:41,150 --> 01:08:37,560
I agree completely

1560
01:08:45,169 --> 01:08:41,160
we know that academic institutions are

1561
01:08:48,289 --> 01:08:45,179
hand in glove with government agencies

1562
01:08:50,990 --> 01:08:48,299
that control information dissemination

1563
01:08:53,689 --> 01:08:51,000
for example the cover-up of giant human

1564
01:08:56,329 --> 01:08:53,699
beings by the Smithsonian

1565
01:08:57,769 --> 01:08:56,339
notably okay so we we know this goes on

1566
01:09:01,249 --> 01:08:57,779
and we know it's been going on for a

1567
01:09:04,010 --> 01:09:01,259
long long time but Becky teply so go

1568
01:09:06,590 --> 01:09:04,020
Beckley Deputy so interesting when I saw

1569
01:09:08,630 --> 01:09:06,600
pictures of it I got really excited it

1570
01:09:10,789 --> 01:09:08,640
stirred in memories and there were so

1571
01:09:12,890 --> 01:09:10,799
some very notable features that arose

1572
01:09:14,990 --> 01:09:12,900
immediately including the fact that the

1573
01:09:17,329 --> 01:09:15,000
whole site was backfilled with a small

1574
01:09:19,910 --> 01:09:17,339
pebble that doesn't exist anywhere in

1575
01:09:22,789 --> 01:09:19,920
this area it was transported in somehow

1576
01:09:26,329 --> 01:09:22,799
and the site was intentionally buried

1577
01:09:30,229 --> 01:09:26,339
with this non-native Rock to hide it

1578
01:09:34,030 --> 01:09:30,239
basically or or smooth it over and when

1579
01:09:40,070 --> 01:09:34,040
they started uncovering these pillars

1580
01:09:42,110 --> 01:09:40,080
the the carving on them is not

1581
01:09:43,849 --> 01:09:42,120
um it's not the kind of relief where

1582
01:09:45,169 --> 01:09:43,859
it's carved out

1583
01:09:48,050 --> 01:09:45,179
it's kind of relief where you have to

1584
01:09:51,050 --> 01:09:48,060
carve everything else away so it's not

1585
01:09:53,150 --> 01:09:51,060
bar relief it's the other kind where it

1586
01:09:55,310 --> 01:09:53,160
sticks up and out so you've got

1587
01:09:57,650 --> 01:09:55,320
creatures crawling around corners and

1588
01:10:01,850 --> 01:09:57,660
hands wrapping around corners on these

1589
01:10:03,410 --> 01:10:01,860
pillars basically and it requires a lot

1590
01:10:04,790 --> 01:10:03,420
of artistic

1591
01:10:07,669 --> 01:10:04,800
planning

1592
01:10:09,350 --> 01:10:07,679
and execution skills to do that sort of

1593
01:10:10,790 --> 01:10:09,360
work and so the first thing I thought

1594
01:10:12,890 --> 01:10:10,800
was not only are these things very

1595
01:10:14,510 --> 01:10:12,900
ancient but they're elaborate they're

1596
01:10:17,209 --> 01:10:14,520
very elaborate they're highly symbolic

1597
01:10:19,790 --> 01:10:17,219
they're artistically refined not

1598
01:10:22,250 --> 01:10:19,800
primitive this is not primitive art and

1599
01:10:24,649 --> 01:10:22,260
the first utterance out of the pundit's

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01:10:26,689 --> 01:10:24,659
mouth was that it had to be a temple

1601
01:10:29,209 --> 01:10:26,699
site this is a temple site and my first

1602
01:10:32,270 --> 01:10:29,219
thought was this is a UFO landing site

1603
01:10:35,510 --> 01:10:32,280
and I looked at these the the structures

1604
01:10:38,390 --> 01:10:35,520
that have been likened unto tuning Forks

1605
01:10:40,610 --> 01:10:38,400
it's a basically it's a pillar that

1606
01:10:41,510 --> 01:10:40,620
comes up and tees out at the top T's at

1607
01:10:44,110 --> 01:10:41,520
the top

1608
01:10:46,970 --> 01:10:44,120
there was a an above ground

1609
01:10:49,010 --> 01:10:46,980
monorails above ground train being built

1610
01:10:51,590 --> 01:10:49,020
for light rail around Denver Colorado

1611
01:10:53,570 --> 01:10:51,600
and Aurora Colorado when I was living

1612
01:10:55,490 --> 01:10:53,580
there and I'm telling you I took

1613
01:10:58,610 --> 01:10:55,500
pictures of those structural supports to

1614
01:11:01,550 --> 01:10:58,620
hold up the very heavy train track that

1615
01:11:04,729 --> 01:11:01,560
was going to be going over Lawns and

1616
01:11:07,430 --> 01:11:04,739
other roads and along the highway for

1617
01:11:09,770 --> 01:11:07,440
commuting and it's the same structure

1618
01:11:11,930 --> 01:11:09,780
they poured it in concrete but it is the

1619
01:11:14,570 --> 01:11:11,940
same shape it's a structural element

1620
01:11:16,790 --> 01:11:14,580
it's not a tuning fork it's not a

1621
01:11:19,189 --> 01:11:16,800
Celestial tuning fork it's a structural

1622
01:11:22,310 --> 01:11:19,199
element that's designed to carry a great

1623
01:11:24,470 --> 01:11:22,320
load if it were a temple it would have a

1624
01:11:27,770 --> 01:11:24,480
roof there's no roof here

1625
01:11:30,830 --> 01:11:27,780
this is not this this isn't designed for

1626
01:11:33,350 --> 01:11:30,840
something to Nestle Down in or on top of

1627
01:11:36,470 --> 01:11:33,360
somehow and these were arranged in rings

1628
01:11:38,810 --> 01:11:36,480
okay so either they are landing

1629
01:11:40,729 --> 01:11:38,820
structures and or they may have been

1630
01:11:42,709 --> 01:11:40,739
able to be activated through sound

1631
01:11:45,350 --> 01:11:42,719
Technologies resonance Technologies

1632
01:11:47,209 --> 01:11:45,360
Michael tellinger of South Africa

1633
01:11:49,430 --> 01:11:47,219
getting into resonance Technologies

1634
01:11:52,070 --> 01:11:49,440
other people too but his work is really

1635
01:11:53,990 --> 01:11:52,080
fascinating you have to have him on the

1636
01:11:55,610 --> 01:11:54,000
show if you haven't already I have man

1637
01:11:57,950 --> 01:11:55,620
you know what I'm talking about oh I do

1638
01:12:02,450 --> 01:11:57,960
he's been in this house he's been to my

1639
01:12:05,030 --> 01:12:02,460
house so that that site that 14 000 year

1640
01:12:07,250 --> 01:12:05,040
old site with elaborate Stone carvings

1641
01:12:08,810 --> 01:12:07,260
it's just short of having hieroglyphics

1642
01:12:11,870 --> 01:12:08,820
in it I don't think there's anything

1643
01:12:13,970 --> 01:12:11,880
that's interpreted as uh

1644
01:12:15,649 --> 01:12:13,980
glyphic you know um language

1645
01:12:17,810 --> 01:12:15,659
representation I don't think they found

1646
01:12:21,350 --> 01:12:17,820
anything like that have they no it's

1647
01:12:25,610 --> 01:12:21,360
pictorial not yet but that that uh

1648
01:12:28,689 --> 01:12:25,620
pillar 43 I think it's 43. that kind of

1649
01:12:32,930 --> 01:12:28,699
looks like a zodiac

1650
01:12:36,290 --> 01:12:32,940
there's something Celestial there which

1651
01:12:38,450 --> 01:12:36,300
I I it doesn't feel earthy to me it

1652
01:12:41,810 --> 01:12:38,460
looks like the constellations are

1653
01:12:44,870 --> 01:12:41,820
represented there and if you're going

1654
01:12:46,790 --> 01:12:44,880
back to 12 000 BC

1655
01:12:50,030 --> 01:12:46,800
um which allegedly everything was

1656
01:12:52,490 --> 01:12:50,040
hunter-gatherers right how would they

1657
01:12:55,729 --> 01:12:52,500
how would they look to the heavens and

1658
01:12:59,149 --> 01:12:55,739
represent a zodiac which didn't happen

1659
01:13:02,149 --> 01:12:59,159
until what dendara in Egypt you know

1660
01:13:04,189 --> 01:13:02,159
it's ridiculous it's Unthinkable all of

1661
01:13:08,750 --> 01:13:04,199
it is Unthinkable for primitive humans

1662
01:13:10,970 --> 01:13:08,760
there is no part of that site that makes

1663
01:13:13,850 --> 01:13:10,980
any sense in the context of primitive

1664
01:13:16,130 --> 01:13:13,860
human cultures and societies but then

1665
01:13:19,189 --> 01:13:16,140
really neither does Stonehenge I don't

1666
01:13:21,950 --> 01:13:19,199
buy the theory personally I don't buy

1667
01:13:24,770 --> 01:13:21,960
the theory that the rocks at Stonehenge

1668
01:13:26,990 --> 01:13:24,780
were rolled over logs hundreds of miles

1669
01:13:29,330 --> 01:13:27,000
away from hundreds of miles away to

1670
01:13:31,910 --> 01:13:29,340
build stone Edge I've I find that hard

1671
01:13:34,130 --> 01:13:31,920
to swallow quite honestly and I find it

1672
01:13:36,110 --> 01:13:34,140
hard to believe that thousands and

1673
01:13:37,850 --> 01:13:36,120
thousands of slave laborers built the

1674
01:13:39,770 --> 01:13:37,860
pyramids honestly I just don't think

1675
01:13:41,689 --> 01:13:39,780
that's what had happened I don't think

1676
01:13:43,910 --> 01:13:41,699
that's how it happened I think Advanced

1677
01:13:47,090 --> 01:13:43,920
Technologies assisted if not did it all

1678
01:13:48,010 --> 01:13:47,100
and did it all fast very fast it was

1679
01:13:50,870 --> 01:13:48,020
easy

1680
01:13:55,010 --> 01:13:50,880
I don't know how they did it

1681
01:13:57,169 --> 01:13:55,020
um when uh the first of the putting the

1682
01:14:00,130 --> 01:13:57,179
Great Pyramid aside I have my own

1683
01:14:04,189 --> 01:14:00,140
opinions on that I've been there

1684
01:14:06,890 --> 01:14:04,199
but but the first time when you go to

1685
01:14:09,050 --> 01:14:06,900
Sakara and you roll up on the Ben

1686
01:14:10,850 --> 01:14:09,060
pyramid right and it's sitting out there

1687
01:14:11,990 --> 01:14:10,860
in the middle of the desert and you walk

1688
01:14:16,729 --> 01:14:12,000
up to that

1689
01:14:18,590 --> 01:14:16,739
it is so freaking big you don't

1690
01:14:21,050 --> 01:14:18,600
understand because it's sitting out

1691
01:14:22,850 --> 01:14:21,060
there and it looks like you can reach

1692
01:14:25,729 --> 01:14:22,860
out and touch it then you start the walk

1693
01:14:27,830 --> 01:14:25,739
right it's like a mile and you're not

1694
01:14:30,550 --> 01:14:27,840
getting any closer by the time you get

1695
01:14:34,970 --> 01:14:30,560
there and you're looking at this thing

1696
01:14:38,990 --> 01:14:34,980
no matter what it was easy

1697
01:14:41,570 --> 01:14:39,000
and it's big and by the time you know

1698
01:14:43,850 --> 01:14:41,580
and The Red Pyramid is a mile behind you

1699
01:14:46,850 --> 01:14:43,860
right you turn around and or two miles

1700
01:14:49,370 --> 01:14:46,860
away uh The Red Pyramid is sitting right

1701
01:14:50,450 --> 01:14:49,380
there but allegedly built at the same

1702
01:14:53,030 --> 01:14:50,460
time

1703
01:14:55,430 --> 01:14:53,040
so wait a minute and and then you know a

1704
01:14:58,189 --> 01:14:55,440
few months later they start Giza right

1705
01:15:01,130 --> 01:14:58,199
and they build three pyramids there

1706
01:15:04,490 --> 01:15:01,140
um and if you put 20 000 people if you

1707
01:15:07,430 --> 01:15:04,500
follow you know Orthodox Academia twenty

1708
01:15:10,209 --> 01:15:07,440
thousand people per pyramid uh over 20

1709
01:15:13,669 --> 01:15:10,219
years it's like everybody in Egypt

1710
01:15:17,570 --> 01:15:13,679
apparently man woman and child

1711
01:15:20,570 --> 01:15:17,580
everybody was building pyramids and that

1712
01:15:22,130 --> 01:15:20,580
simply wasn't no no no no if that were

1713
01:15:23,930 --> 01:15:22,140
happening don't you think there'd be

1714
01:15:25,669 --> 01:15:23,940
lots and lots and lots and lots of

1715
01:15:28,790 --> 01:15:25,679
Egyptian art showing people building

1716
01:15:31,310 --> 01:15:28,800
pyramids and there's none there's none

1717
01:15:34,729 --> 01:15:31,320
there are no tools

1718
01:15:37,850 --> 01:15:34,739
left over from building the pyramids I I

1719
01:15:39,350 --> 01:15:37,860
find that people people who say it had

1720
01:15:41,510 --> 01:15:39,360
to have been humans because there's

1721
01:15:43,669 --> 01:15:41,520
nothing but humans I mean that's a

1722
01:15:46,490 --> 01:15:43,679
pretty weak argument first of all in my

1723
01:15:48,649 --> 01:15:46,500
view because I I believe there are

1724
01:15:50,689 --> 01:15:48,659
individuals who are not humans so it's

1725
01:15:52,430 --> 01:15:50,699
easy for me to believe that non-humans

1726
01:15:53,750 --> 01:15:52,440
could build things like pyramids on

1727
01:15:57,229 --> 01:15:53,760
Earth it's very easy for me to believe

1728
01:15:59,450 --> 01:15:57,239
that or or allow it as a theory okay a

1729
01:16:01,729 --> 01:15:59,460
working Theory but people who cannot

1730
01:16:05,450 --> 01:16:01,739
allow for extraterrestrials for anything

1731
01:16:07,490 --> 01:16:05,460
but humans cannot go there it has to be

1732
01:16:10,450 --> 01:16:07,500
humans there's nothing else it could be

1733
01:16:13,010 --> 01:16:10,460
and that's true with the site in turkey

1734
01:16:14,209 --> 01:16:13,020
and all the other sites the sites in

1735
01:16:16,310 --> 01:16:14,219
South America

1736
01:16:18,950 --> 01:16:16,320
there there's one you bring up a good

1737
01:16:21,050 --> 01:16:18,960
point so let's swing this back uh a

1738
01:16:23,410 --> 01:16:21,060
second let's put the car in reverse

1739
01:16:26,810 --> 01:16:23,420
if you have two and a half million

1740
01:16:29,930 --> 01:16:26,820
blocks on the geese of plateau forget

1741
01:16:32,689 --> 01:16:29,940
about the other 75 pyramids in in Egypt

1742
01:16:35,209 --> 01:16:32,699
let's just talk about Giza so kafri and

1743
01:16:37,010 --> 01:16:35,219
Khufu right the two main pyramids two

1744
01:16:39,770 --> 01:16:37,020
and a half million blocks each

1745
01:16:43,750 --> 01:16:39,780
that's a lot of copper chisels

1746
01:16:47,630 --> 01:16:43,760
and I would think right copper is soft

1747
01:16:50,570 --> 01:16:47,640
but there would be pits of copper

1748
01:16:52,970 --> 01:16:50,580
chisels yeah we would see millions of

1749
01:16:54,610 --> 01:16:52,980
them and where are they that's all

1750
01:16:57,590 --> 01:16:54,620
that's right okay

1751
01:16:59,990 --> 01:16:57,600
very easy question somebody Point those

1752
01:17:02,090 --> 01:17:00,000
to me there are archaeologists haven't

1753
01:17:03,410 --> 01:17:02,100
have uncovered

1754
01:17:06,110 --> 01:17:03,420
evidence

1755
01:17:10,189 --> 01:17:06,120
near the pyramids of human habitation

1756
01:17:12,649 --> 01:17:10,199
they found beer and bread

1757
01:17:13,970 --> 01:17:12,659
but it is not at all clear that these

1758
01:17:16,850 --> 01:17:13,980
humans were involved in building

1759
01:17:19,490 --> 01:17:16,860
pyramids because where are the tools

1760
01:17:22,070 --> 01:17:19,500
where where's any

1761
01:17:24,229 --> 01:17:22,080
there's a little bit of graffiti at the

1762
01:17:27,709 --> 01:17:24,239
pyramids maybe you saw some in your

1763
01:17:29,649 --> 01:17:27,719
travels but uh graffitis a very

1764
01:17:32,750 --> 01:17:29,659
interesting cultural expression right

1765
01:17:35,270 --> 01:17:32,760
and even in the graffiti there's

1766
01:17:38,090 --> 01:17:35,280
no that I've seen and I'm no expert on

1767
01:17:41,110 --> 01:17:38,100
graffiti at the pyramids but

1768
01:17:43,490 --> 01:17:41,120
you would think that if this

1769
01:17:44,990 --> 01:17:43,500
massive Public Works was going on

1770
01:17:46,669 --> 01:17:45,000
generation after generation after

1771
01:17:48,110 --> 01:17:46,679
generation with all these people and all

1772
01:17:51,229 --> 01:17:48,120
these blocks and all this rigmarole

1773
01:17:53,689 --> 01:17:51,239
especially if it involved ropes and logs

1774
01:17:56,630 --> 01:17:53,699
or whatever kinds of Technologies modern

1775
01:17:58,370 --> 01:17:56,640
Engineers say would have to be involved

1776
01:18:00,410 --> 01:17:58,380
right

1777
01:18:02,510 --> 01:18:00,420
there'd be traces of it there'd be

1778
01:18:05,030 --> 01:18:02,520
stories there'd be songs there'd be

1779
01:18:06,350 --> 01:18:05,040
pictures there I mean these people drew

1780
01:18:08,450 --> 01:18:06,360
everything

1781
01:18:10,189 --> 01:18:08,460
why are there no pictures of this that's

1782
01:18:13,990 --> 01:18:10,199
right that's right but they there's

1783
01:18:17,270 --> 01:18:14,000
plenty of bread making recipes right

1784
01:18:19,490 --> 01:18:17,280
beer making yeah beer making wine we've

1785
01:18:24,709 --> 01:18:19,500
got that we found uh containers you know

1786
01:18:26,570 --> 01:18:24,719
amphoras uh faces and they scrape on the

1787
01:18:28,370 --> 01:18:26,580
inside and they they can do analysis to

1788
01:18:30,770 --> 01:18:28,380
see what was inside there and they know

1789
01:18:32,450 --> 01:18:30,780
they drank beer not wine beer they had

1790
01:18:34,850 --> 01:18:32,460
beer they were making beer in other

1791
01:18:36,169 --> 01:18:34,860
words they were fermenting beer and they

1792
01:18:38,390 --> 01:18:36,179
were making bread although that might

1793
01:18:41,290 --> 01:18:38,400
have been unleavened come to think of it

1794
01:18:44,810 --> 01:18:41,300
yeah but anything about beer and bread

1795
01:18:46,790 --> 01:18:44,820
again again we have lots of evidence of

1796
01:18:50,630 --> 01:18:46,800
that okay so they could bake and they

1797
01:18:54,470 --> 01:18:50,640
they were uh they were uh making beer

1798
01:18:56,750 --> 01:18:54,480
lots of fish heads right yeah but

1799
01:19:01,030 --> 01:18:56,760
where's everything else that's right

1800
01:19:03,530 --> 01:19:01,040
that's right do you feel that I agree

1801
01:19:07,010 --> 01:19:03,540
do you feel that

1802
01:19:10,250 --> 01:19:07,020
um in the future that uh people like

1803
01:19:13,729 --> 01:19:10,260
Zachariah sitchin uh were on the right

1804
01:19:16,370 --> 01:19:13,739
side of history that that that that is

1805
01:19:19,490 --> 01:19:16,380
closer to our reality of our human

1806
01:19:22,669 --> 01:19:19,500
Origins than the other part that we are

1807
01:19:25,070 --> 01:19:22,679
taught in school yes absolutely and when

1808
01:19:28,010 --> 01:19:25,080
I first read Zechariah sitchin it

1809
01:19:30,590 --> 01:19:28,020
resonated so profoundly with me that I

1810
01:19:32,630 --> 01:19:30,600
was surprised anyone would debunk him

1811
01:19:35,810 --> 01:19:32,640
but I immediately found debunkers of

1812
01:19:38,030 --> 01:19:35,820
sichin saying how does he claim to know

1813
01:19:41,149 --> 01:19:38,040
ancient Sumerian by the way for those

1814
01:19:41,870 --> 01:19:41,159
who don't know Zechariah sitchin was the

1815
01:19:44,630 --> 01:19:41,880
first

1816
01:19:47,870 --> 01:19:44,640
linguist well he wasn't the linguist the

1817
01:19:50,290 --> 01:19:47,880
first per the first citizen scientist to

1818
01:19:52,729 --> 01:19:50,300
say he had successfully translated

1819
01:19:56,630 --> 01:19:52,739
Sumerian texts when no one else had been

1820
01:19:59,510 --> 01:19:56,640
able to do so and he had decoded

1821
01:20:02,870 --> 01:19:59,520
among other things the human creation

1822
01:20:06,169 --> 01:20:02,880
myth or history as I think of it from

1823
01:20:08,390 --> 01:20:06,179
Sumerian clay tablets tablets which by

1824
01:20:10,729 --> 01:20:08,400
the way are almost all cylindrical and

1825
01:20:13,430 --> 01:20:10,739
they get rolled out I saw a whole bunch

1826
01:20:16,070 --> 01:20:13,440
of these in museums in Europe and

1827
01:20:17,750 --> 01:20:16,080
Scholars at the time didn't know what

1828
01:20:19,130 --> 01:20:17,760
they were what to make of them and then

1829
01:20:21,470 --> 01:20:19,140
somebody I think was playing around with

1830
01:20:22,790 --> 01:20:21,480
one on Play-Doh or something one day and

1831
01:20:25,850 --> 01:20:22,800
they noticed it left an imprint they

1832
01:20:28,910 --> 01:20:25,860
went whoa if you roll it out it makes a

1833
01:20:29,750 --> 01:20:28,920
tableau it's it's uh like a cartoon I

1834
01:20:31,729 --> 01:20:29,760
mean it

1835
01:20:33,350 --> 01:20:31,739
and they began to decipher those and

1836
01:20:34,850 --> 01:20:33,360
they get you know compare they rolled

1837
01:20:37,910 --> 01:20:34,860
out cylinders and they began to compare

1838
01:20:39,770 --> 01:20:37,920
the texts and then the first ones they

1839
01:20:41,030 --> 01:20:39,780
got were counting with numbers numbers

1840
01:20:44,270 --> 01:20:41,040
are always easiest when you're

1841
01:20:48,169 --> 01:20:44,280
deciphering codes so numbers repeated

1842
01:20:50,270 --> 01:20:48,179
often and easy to represent so

1843
01:20:53,570 --> 01:20:50,280
they found accounting records for

1844
01:20:55,490 --> 01:20:53,580
livestock and grain those were the first

1845
01:20:58,189 --> 01:20:55,500
Sumerian records but then they stumbled

1846
01:20:59,750 --> 01:20:58,199
across creation myth which was that the

1847
01:21:03,110 --> 01:20:59,760
Anunnaki

1848
01:21:05,450 --> 01:21:03,120
ETS came from their home planet to get

1849
01:21:07,189 --> 01:21:05,460
gold from Earth to save their planet's

1850
01:21:10,310 --> 01:21:07,199
atmosphere a certain kind of gold

1851
01:21:12,830 --> 01:21:10,320
monatomic and they found plenty of gold

1852
01:21:14,689 --> 01:21:12,840
in Africa so they put spaceports in the

1853
01:21:17,630 --> 01:21:14,699
north of Africa the cradle of

1854
01:21:19,370 --> 01:21:17,640
civilization and they mined gold in the

1855
01:21:21,890 --> 01:21:19,380
south of Africa where Michael tellinger

1856
01:21:25,010 --> 01:21:21,900
is and stewed artifacts all over the

1857
01:21:28,189 --> 01:21:25,020
place there when Giants roamed the Earth

1858
01:21:32,689 --> 01:21:28,199
interesting interesting stuff yeah well

1859
01:21:35,689 --> 01:21:32,699
the the the the crazy part for me

1860
01:21:40,550 --> 01:21:35,699
is this I want your opinion

1861
01:21:43,910 --> 01:21:40,560
sitchin lays out a series of numbers

1862
01:21:45,830 --> 01:21:43,920
um but you know between 200 and 400 000

1863
01:21:50,330 --> 01:21:45,840
years ago when all of the stuff is going

1864
01:21:53,390 --> 01:21:50,340
down and then an anthropologist uh will

1865
01:21:55,669 --> 01:21:53,400
tell you and and any history book that

1866
01:21:58,970 --> 01:21:55,679
homo sapien sapien the modern version of

1867
01:22:04,209 --> 01:21:58,980
us is 200 000 years old

1868
01:22:08,209 --> 01:22:04,219
and it matches up with uh sitchin's work

1869
01:22:11,890 --> 01:22:08,219
as he was transcribing these texts but

1870
01:22:14,149 --> 01:22:11,900
yet an anthropologist won't in any way

1871
01:22:16,669 --> 01:22:14,159
uh say that there was something else

1872
01:22:18,470 --> 01:22:16,679
that interfered with us whether it's the

1873
01:22:22,430 --> 01:22:18,480
count of chromosomes or DNA

1874
01:22:25,209 --> 01:22:22,440
modifications or or how we just appeared

1875
01:22:29,810 --> 01:22:25,219
here on this planet but yet sitchin

1876
01:22:32,990 --> 01:22:29,820
explains it pretty elegantly and it just

1877
01:22:35,930 --> 01:22:33,000
shows me that if if it's Occam's razor

1878
01:22:38,470 --> 01:22:35,940
right the simplest I think the way that

1879
01:22:41,270 --> 01:22:38,480
sitchin and and Lloyd pie and others

1880
01:22:44,270 --> 01:22:41,280
have laid it out makes a lot of sense

1881
01:22:46,790 --> 01:22:44,280
and I think that we should explore it

1882
01:22:47,890 --> 01:22:46,800
yes and let's remember too that sitchin

1883
01:22:51,530 --> 01:22:47,900
wasn't

1884
01:22:54,350 --> 01:22:51,540
theorizing so much as transcribing what

1885
01:22:57,290 --> 01:22:54,360
he found written right I don't think he

1886
01:22:59,330 --> 01:22:57,300
was editorializing very much

1887
01:23:01,910 --> 01:22:59,340
no I don't think he was either and

1888
01:23:04,490 --> 01:23:01,920
what's really interesting he was decried

1889
01:23:06,050 --> 01:23:04,500
as a fraud originally by mainstream

1890
01:23:07,490 --> 01:23:06,060
anthropologists and linguists who said

1891
01:23:09,110 --> 01:23:07,500
how could he possibly know what he's

1892
01:23:12,290 --> 01:23:09,120
talking about nobody knows this language

1893
01:23:13,970 --> 01:23:12,300
how could he know okay so they said it's

1894
01:23:16,250 --> 01:23:13,980
impossible what he's done is impossible

1895
01:23:18,830 --> 01:23:16,260
so it can't be true and then other

1896
01:23:21,350 --> 01:23:18,840
Scholars got on the case and they

1897
01:23:23,750 --> 01:23:21,360
confirmed his translations so one

1898
01:23:26,149 --> 01:23:23,760
question is how did sitchin get his

1899
01:23:29,330 --> 01:23:26,159
knowledge did he get divine inspiration

1900
01:23:31,430 --> 01:23:29,340
you know was he channeling a being that

1901
01:23:33,229 --> 01:23:31,440
was giving him the clues and visiting

1902
01:23:38,050 --> 01:23:33,239
him in his dreams or something like that

1903
01:23:41,090 --> 01:23:38,060
I I don't I don't know that he ever

1904
01:23:42,709 --> 01:23:41,100
explained how he arrived at these

1905
01:23:45,590 --> 01:23:42,719
translations I don't know I haven't read

1906
01:23:48,350 --> 01:23:45,600
that at this point again I'm no expert

1907
01:23:50,090 --> 01:23:48,360
on him but I've read enough to know that

1908
01:23:53,689 --> 01:23:50,100
he's totally resonating where I with

1909
01:23:56,630 --> 01:23:53,699
where I'm coming from that humans would

1910
01:23:59,149 --> 01:23:56,640
not be here as we are Homo sapiens

1911
01:24:01,790 --> 01:23:59,159
sapiens would not be Homo Sapien sapiens

1912
01:24:03,649 --> 01:24:01,800
without the intervention of some ETS

1913
01:24:06,229 --> 01:24:03,659
and that we have

1914
01:24:08,689 --> 01:24:06,239
ET genetics in us that so-called mystery

1915
01:24:12,130 --> 01:24:08,699
DNA the right it doesn't occur in any

1916
01:24:15,709 --> 01:24:12,140
other mammal on earth hello

1917
01:24:18,430 --> 01:24:15,719
it wouldn't surprise me if he if he

1918
01:24:21,530 --> 01:24:18,440
channeled some of this

1919
01:24:24,770 --> 01:24:21,540
it wouldn't I mean I I have been told

1920
01:24:28,130 --> 01:24:24,780
that he he did uh Channel this I don't

1921
01:24:30,590 --> 01:24:28,140
want to get into that but yeah it's a

1922
01:24:33,649 --> 01:24:30,600
sidebar but however he got his knowledge

1923
01:24:35,810 --> 01:24:33,659
he was decried as a fraud and that

1924
01:24:37,970 --> 01:24:35,820
turned out he wasn't and there was no

1925
01:24:41,209 --> 01:24:37,980
public apology from the mainstream of

1926
01:24:44,750 --> 01:24:41,219
course right but we know that his

1927
01:24:47,149 --> 01:24:44,760
translations hold water and this is and

1928
01:24:49,490 --> 01:24:47,159
that humans were bioengineered by the

1929
01:24:52,130 --> 01:24:49,500
Anunnaki to mine gold in the African

1930
01:24:54,590 --> 01:24:52,140
heat because the Anunnaki were wimps and

1931
01:24:58,130 --> 01:24:54,600
the slave race they brought with them

1932
01:25:02,330 --> 01:24:58,140
the EG were also wimps and couldn't

1933
01:25:04,729 --> 01:25:02,340
handle it it was hot they were tired

1934
01:25:08,149 --> 01:25:04,739
right right right

1935
01:25:09,590 --> 01:25:08,159
um I am I'm very excited that uh in

1936
01:25:12,830 --> 01:25:09,600
November

1937
01:25:15,010 --> 01:25:12,840
um uh I'm finally going to make it down

1938
01:25:19,189 --> 01:25:15,020
to Peru

1939
01:25:22,070 --> 01:25:19,199
and I'm Machu Picchu but I'm also going

1940
01:25:23,330 --> 01:25:22,080
uh I'm gonna go see the skulls and I'm

1941
01:25:25,010 --> 01:25:23,340
gonna do all of that stuff I'm going

1942
01:25:28,669 --> 01:25:25,020
with a Brian Forrester and I'm going to

1943
01:25:29,930 --> 01:25:28,679
lead this to her but nice but I got to

1944
01:25:33,530 --> 01:25:29,940
tell you

1945
01:25:35,030 --> 01:25:33,540
the Nazca Lines okay do you mind can we

1946
01:25:37,610 --> 01:25:35,040
talk about the Nazca Lines for a second

1947
01:25:39,050 --> 01:25:37,620
oh yeah I talked about that on a legit

1948
01:25:41,090 --> 01:25:39,060
paranormal news

1949
01:25:43,310 --> 01:25:41,100
a couple three weeks ago by the way I'm

1950
01:25:47,630 --> 01:25:43,320
I'm a feature on that show Wednesday

1951
01:25:49,550 --> 01:25:47,640
nights it's seven o'clock

1952
01:25:51,169 --> 01:25:49,560
Central so that's eight o'clock Eastern

1953
01:25:54,169 --> 01:25:51,179
eight o'clock Eastern you all could work

1954
01:25:57,350 --> 01:25:54,179
it out from there legit paranormal news

1955
01:25:59,390 --> 01:25:57,360
and I'm jet fuel Gene royda

1956
01:26:01,430 --> 01:25:59,400
bring in all the UFO news and other

1957
01:26:04,970 --> 01:26:01,440
stuff they want to talk about that's fun

1958
01:26:07,189 --> 01:26:04,980
on a Wednesday but when I was a kid you

1959
01:26:11,390 --> 01:26:07,199
and I are the same age so if we back up

1960
01:26:15,649 --> 01:26:11,400
and uh 19 I I remember this like it was

1961
01:26:17,930 --> 01:26:15,659
yesterday 70 71 when the movie came out

1962
01:26:21,590 --> 01:26:17,940
Chariots of the Gods and I would wait

1963
01:26:24,470 --> 01:26:21,600
for the TV commercial right because they

1964
01:26:26,510 --> 01:26:24,480
would show uh this is before I had a

1965
01:26:29,390 --> 01:26:26,520
chance to go to the the theater to see

1966
01:26:32,510 --> 01:26:29,400
it in person but they would show the

1967
01:26:36,350 --> 01:26:32,520
Nazca Lines right right because that was

1968
01:26:41,689 --> 01:26:36,360
a big deal it still is right but but to

1969
01:26:46,910 --> 01:26:41,699
me personally it was incredible and the

1970
01:26:49,189 --> 01:26:46,920
idea that these ginormous uh glyphs you

1971
01:26:52,850 --> 01:26:49,199
know carved in the desert that can only

1972
01:26:56,209 --> 01:26:52,860
be seen from above when when you're 10

1973
01:26:58,550 --> 01:26:56,219
years old your mind is messed with and

1974
01:27:01,129 --> 01:26:58,560
it was like man that makes perfect sense

1975
01:27:03,890 --> 01:27:01,139
to me I'm finally going to be able to go

1976
01:27:06,950 --> 01:27:03,900
and see them from the air and we're

1977
01:27:08,570 --> 01:27:06,960
discovering more and more uh glyphs uh

1978
01:27:10,729 --> 01:27:08,580
down there all the time there's there

1979
01:27:12,470 --> 01:27:10,739
was a new find I I reported on this

1980
01:27:15,410 --> 01:27:12,480
sweat as I say two three weeks ago

1981
01:27:20,270 --> 01:27:15,420
there's been a second Discovery they're

1982
01:27:23,050 --> 01:27:20,280
using modern in modern Technologies to

1983
01:27:25,729 --> 01:27:23,060
do aerial detection

1984
01:27:27,410 --> 01:27:25,739
from satellite imagery I think so

1985
01:27:30,530 --> 01:27:27,420
they're finding faint traces you know

1986
01:27:35,350 --> 01:27:30,540
lines that are much fainter but patterns

1987
01:27:38,330 --> 01:27:35,360
and so was it 400 more 600 more 100 more

1988
01:27:40,129 --> 01:27:38,340
like that something like that yeah that

1989
01:27:43,070 --> 01:27:40,139
cat that they found on the side of the

1990
01:27:44,990 --> 01:27:43,080
mountain with the cat ears

1991
01:27:47,390 --> 01:27:45,000
man that is the most to me anyway

1992
01:27:48,709 --> 01:27:47,400
they're huge

1993
01:27:52,550 --> 01:27:48,719
huge drawings

1994
01:27:55,850 --> 01:27:52,560
are huge these the technology is that

1995
01:27:58,310 --> 01:27:55,860
rock has been scraped away somehow to

1996
01:27:59,870 --> 01:27:58,320
the depth of about one inch and about 10

1997
01:28:06,590 --> 01:27:59,880
inches wide

1998
01:28:09,590 --> 01:28:06,600
that the surface rock is of a lighter

1999
01:28:12,169 --> 01:28:09,600
color and when you scratch it off

2000
01:28:14,689 --> 01:28:12,179
you get the contrast of a darker Rock

2001
01:28:16,490 --> 01:28:14,699
underneath to the surface soil

2002
01:28:19,790 --> 01:28:16,500
okay fine

2003
01:28:22,790 --> 01:28:19,800
but these things are huge measured in

2004
01:28:25,870 --> 01:28:22,800
fractions of miles right hundreds of

2005
01:28:28,550 --> 01:28:25,880
yards hundreds of meters and yards so

2006
01:28:31,490 --> 01:28:28,560
and valdonigan made the point that if

2007
01:28:33,590 --> 01:28:31,500
you actually kind of back off and look

2008
01:28:35,629 --> 01:28:33,600
at the whole Mountain the shape of the

2009
01:28:38,090 --> 01:28:35,639
whole Mountain it looks as if the top of

2010
01:28:39,970 --> 01:28:38,100
a mountain has just been sheared off

2011
01:28:42,950 --> 01:28:39,980
to create a

2012
01:28:45,350 --> 01:28:42,960
surface for these lines

2013
01:28:47,090 --> 01:28:45,360
the lines are on a flat surface that

2014
01:28:49,370 --> 01:28:47,100
should be Mountaintop in other words

2015
01:28:52,250 --> 01:28:49,380
you're familiar with that right yes I am

2016
01:28:54,410 --> 01:28:52,260
I am that's just crazy the scale of that

2017
01:28:57,830 --> 01:28:54,420
kind of a work is it

2018
01:28:59,149 --> 01:28:57,840
that's almost incomprehensible but there

2019
01:29:02,090 --> 01:28:59,159
it is it exists

2020
01:29:04,250 --> 01:29:02,100
exists it exists and so for things that

2021
01:29:06,229 --> 01:29:04,260
exist that are hard to explain

2022
01:29:10,430 --> 01:29:06,239
that International governments just want

2023
01:29:12,530 --> 01:29:10,440
to say well don't you know just throw a

2024
01:29:14,270 --> 01:29:12,540
blanket over it let's not talk about it

2025
01:29:16,310 --> 01:29:14,280
let's pretend it doesn't exist because

2026
01:29:18,830 --> 01:29:16,320
we can't explain it with governments if

2027
01:29:21,169 --> 01:29:18,840
they can't explain it or control it it's

2028
01:29:25,189 --> 01:29:21,179
dangerous so getting you know looping

2029
01:29:30,649 --> 01:29:25,199
back to the modern task forces to study

2030
01:29:34,070 --> 01:29:30,659
uaps UFOs uh they uh

2031
01:29:36,530 --> 01:29:34,080
that sorry I've just I got so many

2032
01:29:37,970 --> 01:29:36,540
thoughts Bill mailing all at once but uh

2033
01:29:41,750 --> 01:29:37,980
they are

2034
01:29:44,590 --> 01:29:41,760
oh my gosh they're just oh I had it but

2035
01:29:48,890 --> 01:29:44,600
I lost it help me help me Jimmy

2036
01:29:52,270 --> 01:29:48,900
I'll help you with this help me I had it

2037
01:29:55,010 --> 01:29:52,280
but I lost it there

2038
01:29:58,310 --> 01:29:55,020
how is it possible

2039
01:30:02,810 --> 01:29:58,320
to a thousand years ago to create these

2040
01:30:05,209 --> 01:30:02,820
glyphs Without A View From the sky right

2041
01:30:07,729 --> 01:30:05,219
there it just somebody wouldn't make

2042
01:30:09,530 --> 01:30:07,739
sense why would you do it

2043
01:30:11,570 --> 01:30:09,540
I I just don't understand I can't wait

2044
01:30:15,110 --> 01:30:11,580
to see why would you in the first place

2045
01:30:18,169 --> 01:30:15,120
if you because you can't see them now is

2046
01:30:20,570 --> 01:30:18,179
it on the ground as a picture right the

2047
01:30:22,550 --> 01:30:20,580
same with crop circles a crop and I I

2048
01:30:24,590 --> 01:30:22,560
report a lot on crop circles one of my

2049
01:30:27,169 --> 01:30:24,600
favorite topics for one thing it's

2050
01:30:28,669 --> 01:30:27,179
non-threatening to people UFO's kind of

2051
01:30:30,770 --> 01:30:28,679
intimidate people

2052
01:30:33,350 --> 01:30:30,780
but crop circles for some reason

2053
01:30:36,169 --> 01:30:33,360
non-threatening even though they're they

2054
01:30:39,290 --> 01:30:36,179
can be kind of creepy but

2055
01:30:42,350 --> 01:30:39,300
uh again viewable only from an altitude

2056
01:30:45,590 --> 01:30:42,360
from the air and they occur mostly in

2057
01:30:48,350 --> 01:30:45,600
the rolling pasture lens of Central

2058
01:30:49,850 --> 01:30:48,360
South Central England that's crop circle

2059
01:30:54,229 --> 01:30:49,860
Central

2060
01:30:56,870 --> 01:30:54,239
so there they have Hills and mounds but

2061
01:30:59,290 --> 01:30:56,880
it's not famous for Alps you know that's

2062
01:31:02,990 --> 01:30:59,300
elsewhere in Europe

2063
01:31:05,030 --> 01:31:03,000
so why do these things exist there yeah

2064
01:31:06,590 --> 01:31:05,040
what's the purpose of the Nazca Lines

2065
01:31:13,010 --> 01:31:06,600
though

2066
01:31:17,629 --> 01:31:16,669
some of the patterns look like Landing

2067
01:31:20,810 --> 01:31:17,639
strips

2068
01:31:24,110 --> 01:31:20,820
parallel lines converging lines lines of

2069
01:31:26,570 --> 01:31:24,120
acute angles intersecting lines some

2070
01:31:28,850 --> 01:31:26,580
look like airfields others are are

2071
01:31:31,490 --> 01:31:28,860
pictures of things and they almost look

2072
01:31:34,010 --> 01:31:31,500
like doodlings like if you were in a

2073
01:31:37,129 --> 01:31:34,020
task force left on Earth to monitor the

2074
01:31:39,770 --> 01:31:37,139
situation if you were of a species that

2075
01:31:41,990 --> 01:31:39,780
lived hundreds or thousands of years

2076
01:31:44,209 --> 01:31:42,000
and you had a lot of time basically to

2077
01:31:46,370 --> 01:31:44,219
pass on Earth

2078
01:31:48,350 --> 01:31:46,380
maybe you would just start doodling

2079
01:31:50,570 --> 01:31:48,360
maybe Earth was kind of like an Etch A

2080
01:31:52,070 --> 01:31:50,580
Sketch or you know a notepad that an

2081
01:31:54,169 --> 01:31:52,080
artist pad where they're just like well

2082
01:31:56,689 --> 01:31:54,179
you know they've got spaceship they've

2083
01:31:58,310 --> 01:31:56,699
got lasers let's just blast you know

2084
01:32:01,850 --> 01:31:58,320
there's these cool animals over there

2085
01:32:12,850 --> 01:32:01,860
let's in Africa let's go monkeys let's

2086
01:32:17,810 --> 01:32:15,649
directional signals like we were here

2087
01:32:19,729 --> 01:32:17,820
you know Kilroy was here

2088
01:32:20,510 --> 01:32:19,739
Hillary was here

2089
01:32:24,229 --> 01:32:20,520
um

2090
01:32:25,610 --> 01:32:24,239
Karen's c-a-i-r-n little uh piles of

2091
01:32:28,970 --> 01:32:25,620
stones that Mark the way to something

2092
01:32:32,350 --> 01:32:28,980
else you know you you are at Earth turn

2093
01:32:35,810 --> 01:32:32,360
right to get to Saturn

2094
01:32:40,490 --> 01:32:35,820
turn left to go to Alpha Centauri

2095
01:32:41,229 --> 01:32:40,500
could be it it could um also

2096
01:32:44,270 --> 01:32:41,239
um

2097
01:32:47,209 --> 01:32:44,280
uh beings we're visiting what do you

2098
01:32:49,790 --> 01:32:47,219
think asking people well this is one of

2099
01:32:52,629 --> 01:32:49,800
my ideas so the Nazca people are being

2100
01:32:55,250 --> 01:32:52,639
visited and they had a couple of

2101
01:32:58,430 --> 01:32:55,260
opportunities to go up in the ships and

2102
01:33:02,030 --> 01:32:58,440
then look down at their Village and and

2103
01:33:04,970 --> 01:33:02,040
they were able to direct and communicate

2104
01:33:08,410 --> 01:33:04,980
with the land and and have the artist

2105
01:33:13,310 --> 01:33:08,420
create those but then after

2106
01:33:16,250 --> 01:33:13,320
the visits stopped they continued they

2107
01:33:19,430 --> 01:33:16,260
continued to draw the Nazca Lines to to

2108
01:33:22,129 --> 01:33:19,440
get their friends to come back right and

2109
01:33:25,729 --> 01:33:22,139
we're here and I think that's another

2110
01:33:28,850 --> 01:33:25,739
part of it and and for some reason uh

2111
01:33:32,090 --> 01:33:28,860
the visits uh in that area just stopped

2112
01:33:33,470 --> 01:33:32,100
and they they were they were sad you

2113
01:33:36,290 --> 01:33:33,480
know and they were always looking to the

2114
01:33:38,750 --> 01:33:36,300
sky and they were trying to you know

2115
01:33:41,930 --> 01:33:38,760
paint a happy place for them to come

2116
01:33:43,910 --> 01:33:41,940
back and did anybody even live there at

2117
01:33:46,250 --> 01:33:43,920
that time I'm not familiar with the

2118
01:33:49,010 --> 01:33:46,260
history of the area well I know the

2119
01:33:53,110 --> 01:33:49,020
Nazca Lines are dating back as I recall

2120
01:33:55,430 --> 01:33:53,120
it's 500 BC to 500 A.D basically yeah

2121
01:33:58,250 --> 01:33:55,440
about a thousand at least the first set

2122
01:34:02,090 --> 01:33:58,260
that they found that is correct but then

2123
01:34:04,189 --> 01:34:02,100
no they're not all that old but what is

2124
01:34:06,830 --> 01:34:04,199
are there villages up there in that

2125
01:34:08,689 --> 01:34:06,840
territory are there are evidence there

2126
01:34:11,229 --> 01:34:08,699
that there had been you know an

2127
01:34:14,390 --> 01:34:11,239
adaptation yes of course we have uh

2128
01:34:16,669 --> 01:34:14,400
Pumapunku and and the sun Temple which

2129
01:34:20,229 --> 01:34:16,679
is right there

2130
01:34:26,209 --> 01:34:20,239
um and Lake Titicaca

2131
01:34:29,689 --> 01:34:26,219
and and so there's been a constant uh uh

2132
01:34:32,330 --> 01:34:29,699
constant life there uh dating back to

2133
01:34:35,590 --> 01:34:32,340
about uh three to four thousand BC that

2134
01:34:38,689 --> 01:34:35,600
we uh uh again

2135
01:34:40,370 --> 01:34:38,699
Academia will state what do the native

2136
01:34:42,649 --> 01:34:40,380
people say about it don't they have

2137
01:34:44,330 --> 01:34:42,659
stories about it yeah the gods built it

2138
01:34:46,490 --> 01:34:44,340
that's what they said well there you go

2139
01:34:49,250 --> 01:34:46,500
problem solved it was the gods we know

2140
01:34:51,470 --> 01:34:49,260
they're ETS well when the Spanish showed

2141
01:34:53,110 --> 01:34:51,480
up they were like so who built this I

2142
01:34:56,750 --> 01:34:53,120
don't know

2143
01:34:59,570 --> 01:34:56,760
that was literally the answer uh it was

2144
01:35:02,209 --> 01:34:59,580
already here the gods built it

2145
01:35:04,010 --> 01:35:02,219
um and so and Pumapunku the the

2146
01:35:07,310 --> 01:35:04,020
interesting thing aside from the h

2147
01:35:09,410 --> 01:35:07,320
blocks and and Ancient Aliens and and

2148
01:35:12,590 --> 01:35:09,420
and so forth

2149
01:35:15,729 --> 01:35:12,600
um uh you know I I think sucralose for

2150
01:35:20,990 --> 01:35:15,739
the work that he's done uh with us but

2151
01:35:23,689 --> 01:35:21,000
that astronomically for it to point at

2152
01:35:26,930 --> 01:35:23,699
something it would have to have been

2153
01:35:29,030 --> 01:35:26,940
built 15 000 years ago to point at a

2154
01:35:32,330 --> 01:35:29,040
specific uh constellation in the sky

2155
01:35:35,450 --> 01:35:32,340
because of the shift yeah because of the

2156
01:35:39,470 --> 01:35:35,460
stars from the perspective of Earth over

2157
01:35:42,530 --> 01:35:39,480
time so when I I mentioned to uh and

2158
01:35:45,110 --> 01:35:42,540
this points back to Academia Gene so

2159
01:35:47,390 --> 01:35:45,120
when I mention this uh to Michio Kaku

2160
01:35:50,689 --> 01:35:47,400
and we were just talking privately right

2161
01:35:53,990 --> 01:35:50,699
and I I pointed out uh to him and he's

2162
01:35:56,330 --> 01:35:54,000
got he's got a pretty open mind but when

2163
01:35:58,550 --> 01:35:56,340
I talked to him about Pumapunku and the

2164
01:36:01,270 --> 01:35:58,560
possibility of it being fifteen thousand

2165
01:36:04,430 --> 01:36:01,280
years so he he goes

2166
01:36:06,970 --> 01:36:04,440
let me stop you right there right and I

2167
01:36:11,990 --> 01:36:06,980
was like but but

2168
01:36:15,530 --> 01:36:12,000
no no he yeah yeah yeah Ice Age no

2169
01:36:18,169 --> 01:36:15,540
nothing no no stop and it was it was

2170
01:36:22,370 --> 01:36:18,179
very interesting to me to have him

2171
01:36:25,430 --> 01:36:22,380
instead of uh you know just inquisitive

2172
01:36:27,350 --> 01:36:25,440
or maybe a little bit of an open mind I

2173
01:36:28,610 --> 01:36:27,360
know right they can't even allow for it

2174
01:36:31,970 --> 01:36:28,620
what's that about

2175
01:36:34,610 --> 01:36:31,980
stop he was like don't want to hear it

2176
01:36:38,030 --> 01:36:34,620
don't want to hear it I I actually feel

2177
01:36:40,370 --> 01:36:38,040
sorry for people who can't allow for

2178
01:36:42,830 --> 01:36:40,380
even I can't even imagine

2179
01:36:45,050 --> 01:36:42,840
well that's why Gobekli Tepe is such a

2180
01:36:47,689 --> 01:36:45,060
big deal it's threatening to a lot of

2181
01:36:50,149 --> 01:36:47,699
people's sometimes you know that's

2182
01:36:53,689 --> 01:36:50,159
really the deck the CIA was

2183
01:36:55,669 --> 01:36:53,699
was told to play back in the 50s that

2184
01:36:58,910 --> 01:36:55,679
was the deck they were handed to play

2185
01:37:00,950 --> 01:36:58,920
was the fear deck you know that we don't

2186
01:37:03,530 --> 01:37:00,960
understand it there therefore we fear it

2187
01:37:05,750 --> 01:37:03,540
instead of trying to understand it so

2188
01:37:08,689 --> 01:37:05,760
that we don't fear it which would have

2189
01:37:11,870 --> 01:37:08,699
been an equally rational maybe more

2190
01:37:13,550 --> 01:37:11,880
rational approach to the phenomenon but

2191
01:37:16,430 --> 01:37:13,560
if you want to keep control if you

2192
01:37:18,290 --> 01:37:16,440
realize if you're let's just say you're

2193
01:37:21,649 --> 01:37:18,300
high up in the military

2194
01:37:24,470 --> 01:37:21,659
high up enough to know secrets and

2195
01:37:27,350 --> 01:37:24,480
perhaps also in Eros or high and or high

2196
01:37:30,950 --> 01:37:27,360
up in Aerospace the companion industry

2197
01:37:33,950 --> 01:37:30,960
to the military right and uh you're

2198
01:37:37,270 --> 01:37:33,960
you're realizing that we have what we

2199
01:37:40,070 --> 01:37:37,280
now know as computers fiber optics

2200
01:37:42,050 --> 01:37:40,080
velcro but all kinds of microwaves

2201
01:37:43,970 --> 01:37:42,060
microwave ovens all kinds of

2202
01:37:45,950 --> 01:37:43,980
technologies that

2203
01:37:48,709 --> 01:37:45,960
could be profitable

2204
01:37:51,590 --> 01:37:48,719
in the future of your country

2205
01:37:54,709 --> 01:37:51,600
and why not ride that profit if you

2206
01:37:56,570 --> 01:37:54,719
could by controlling it so don't give it

2207
01:37:58,729 --> 01:37:56,580
out freely to the people you know Tesla

2208
01:38:00,649 --> 01:37:58,739
Nikola Tesla was all about free energy

2209
01:38:01,430 --> 01:38:00,659
gift the energy of the Earth to the

2210
01:38:07,729 --> 01:38:01,440
people

2211
01:38:09,950 --> 01:38:07,739
happening in the history of UFOs on

2212
01:38:13,370 --> 01:38:09,960
Earth it's been the opposite it's been

2213
01:38:15,649 --> 01:38:13,380
major control freaks keeping down this

2214
01:38:18,470 --> 01:38:15,659
truth embargo that Steve Bassett talks

2215
01:38:20,450 --> 01:38:18,480
about the intrusive embargo on UFOs and

2216
01:38:22,790 --> 01:38:20,460
it's finally being blown apart not not

2217
01:38:25,729 --> 01:38:22,800
blown apart like I said it's it's come

2218
01:38:26,810 --> 01:38:25,739
apart with a whimper you know not me not

2219
01:38:29,149 --> 01:38:26,820
where are the National headlines

2220
01:38:30,890 --> 01:38:29,159
Pentagon admits UFOs are real and we

2221
01:38:32,870 --> 01:38:30,900
don't know what they are

2222
01:38:35,390 --> 01:38:32,880
can't have that because you don't

2223
01:38:38,870 --> 01:38:35,400
understand it we have to fear it

2224
01:38:41,209 --> 01:38:38,880
well it's see this is where they tell us

2225
01:38:44,270 --> 01:38:41,219
this is where the government messed up

2226
01:38:46,070 --> 01:38:44,280
all right now they've got they've

2227
01:38:48,770 --> 01:38:46,080
painted themselves in the corner and

2228
01:38:52,370 --> 01:38:48,780
this isn't the proverbial Corner they've

2229
01:38:57,830 --> 01:38:52,380
painted themselves into the corner in

2230
01:39:01,330 --> 01:38:57,840
that uh instead of uh doing the the

2231
01:39:03,649 --> 01:39:01,340
Tesla Model which Tesla said

2232
01:39:07,250 --> 01:39:03,659
electricity is everywhere give it free

2233
01:39:11,510 --> 01:39:07,260
right and and and I can show you how to

2234
01:39:15,169 --> 01:39:11,520
do it well uh if it comes out

2235
01:39:17,510 --> 01:39:15,179
that the government has had knowledge of

2236
01:39:20,810 --> 01:39:17,520
free accessible energy for the planet

2237
01:39:23,770 --> 01:39:20,820
that could solve every could feed and

2238
01:39:26,990 --> 01:39:23,780
heat and clothe and provide light

2239
01:39:29,810 --> 01:39:27,000
to everybody on this planet the schools

2240
01:39:32,870 --> 01:39:29,820
you know heat and and and and light

2241
01:39:34,729 --> 01:39:32,880
schools and and food distribution you

2242
01:39:37,790 --> 01:39:34,739
mean you've been sitting on this

2243
01:39:39,370 --> 01:39:37,800
technology now talk about burning this

2244
01:39:42,410 --> 01:39:39,380
place down

2245
01:39:44,450 --> 01:39:42,420
there would be quite a few upset people

2246
01:39:47,450 --> 01:39:44,460
and that's they painted themselves in

2247
01:39:49,729 --> 01:39:47,460
the corner there's there's no way to

2248
01:39:53,810 --> 01:39:49,739
disclose that something else has to

2249
01:39:57,070 --> 01:39:53,820
happen for them to get out of this uh to

2250
01:40:00,410 --> 01:39:57,080
get a hall pass because right now

2251
01:40:02,629 --> 01:40:00,420
oh man there will be some angry people

2252
01:40:06,590 --> 01:40:02,639
on this planet well I thought there'd be

2253
01:40:09,110 --> 01:40:06,600
angry people when the Pentagon said

2254
01:40:11,209 --> 01:40:09,120
those videos were real we've did

2255
01:40:13,030 --> 01:40:11,219
classified them and those guys those

2256
01:40:16,129 --> 01:40:13,040
those military personnel were not crazy

2257
01:40:18,410 --> 01:40:16,139
they weren't battle fatigued they

2258
01:40:20,209 --> 01:40:18,420
actually saw what they saw and we

2259
01:40:21,470 --> 01:40:20,219
support them now we're not going to fire

2260
01:40:23,570 --> 01:40:21,480
them we're not going to threaten their

2261
01:40:26,450 --> 01:40:23,580
families and kill them all we're gonna

2262
01:40:28,010 --> 01:40:26,460
say come forward whistleblowers by the

2263
01:40:29,689 --> 01:40:28,020
way with with the blowers are not coming

2264
01:40:31,250 --> 01:40:29,699
forward because apparently it's kind of

2265
01:40:33,470 --> 01:40:31,260
lip service this new government

2266
01:40:36,290 --> 01:40:33,480
initiative to get whistleblowers to come

2267
01:40:39,370 --> 01:40:36,300
forward is apparently not what it's

2268
01:40:43,250 --> 01:40:39,380
purported to be oh there's a shock right

2269
01:40:45,530 --> 01:40:43,260
and uh what's more interesting in a way

2270
01:40:47,570 --> 01:40:45,540
are deathbed confessions because let's

2271
01:40:49,189 --> 01:40:47,580
face it you got nothing to lose on the

2272
01:40:50,629 --> 01:40:49,199
death bed

2273
01:40:52,490 --> 01:40:50,639
and there have been some very

2274
01:40:55,250 --> 01:40:52,500
interesting confessions because it's

2275
01:40:58,729 --> 01:40:55,260
been that long now this cover-up has

2276
01:41:02,209 --> 01:40:58,739
been going on 70 years so if you were

2277
01:41:05,330 --> 01:41:02,219
10 10 years old 20 years old

2278
01:41:07,310 --> 01:41:05,340
then you're 90 now and it's about that

2279
01:41:09,830 --> 01:41:07,320
time for you yeah so we're getting these

2280
01:41:11,930 --> 01:41:09,840
deathbed confessions of and they're

2281
01:41:13,550 --> 01:41:11,940
saying that I would have said something

2282
01:41:15,770 --> 01:41:13,560
earlier but they threatened me they

2283
01:41:17,570 --> 01:41:15,780
threatened my family I threat my pension

2284
01:41:19,490 --> 01:41:17,580
they threaten my this they threaten that

2285
01:41:22,250 --> 01:41:19,500
threaten threatened threat well

2286
01:41:24,830 --> 01:41:22,260
we live in a society where government

2287
01:41:27,290 --> 01:41:24,840
agencies summarily threaten people who

2288
01:41:29,629 --> 01:41:27,300
want to deliver a narrative that is

2289
01:41:30,649 --> 01:41:29,639
truthful but unpopular with the

2290
01:41:33,530 --> 01:41:30,659
government

2291
01:41:36,530 --> 01:41:33,540
well where does that put us actually in

2292
01:41:40,189 --> 01:41:36,540
terms of what kind of culture we are are

2293
01:41:45,350 --> 01:41:40,199
we a Democratic Republic anymore

2294
01:41:48,770 --> 01:41:45,360
well when uh when Jilla brand is such a

2295
01:41:51,590 --> 01:41:48,780
great point because in gillibrand's

2296
01:41:54,050 --> 01:41:51,600
Amendment where she did whistleblower is

2297
01:41:56,510 --> 01:41:54,060
not the right uh she she didn't use

2298
01:41:59,510 --> 01:41:56,520
those words but there that there

2299
01:42:01,129 --> 01:41:59,520
wouldn't be any uh downside to coming

2300
01:42:04,129 --> 01:42:01,139
forward we're not going to touch your

2301
01:42:05,629 --> 01:42:04,139
pension all right no reprisals right and

2302
01:42:07,790 --> 01:42:05,639
and so

2303
01:42:11,870 --> 01:42:07,800
um with that

2304
01:42:13,729 --> 01:42:11,880
um the the way that they disclosed those

2305
01:42:17,709 --> 01:42:13,739
three videos they just said the videos

2306
01:42:20,570 --> 01:42:17,719
are real in other words it's not a a

2307
01:42:22,970 --> 01:42:20,580
it's not an unreal video it's a real

2308
01:42:26,629 --> 01:42:22,980
video but we can't talk about what's in

2309
01:42:28,609 --> 01:42:26,639
the video and then gillibrand uh puts

2310
01:42:30,290 --> 01:42:28,619
that wording specifically in the

2311
01:42:34,250 --> 01:42:30,300
amendment it seems like we're going

2312
01:42:36,709 --> 01:42:34,260
forward and then Kirkpatrick uh last

2313
01:42:39,830 --> 01:42:36,719
month comes out in the arrow hearing and

2314
01:42:42,410 --> 01:42:39,840
says I ain't got no E.T there's no

2315
01:42:46,010 --> 01:42:42,420
evidence sense of E.T anywhere right

2316
01:42:49,490 --> 01:42:46,020
right it's very strange the current

2317
01:42:51,530 --> 01:42:49,500
narrative is that the craft exists

2318
01:42:53,870 --> 01:42:51,540
we don't know where they are we don't

2319
01:42:55,850 --> 01:42:53,880
know who created them and we have no

2320
01:43:00,890 --> 01:42:55,860
reason to think that any intelligent

2321
01:43:05,689 --> 01:43:03,410
what doesn't seem to be great dot

2322
01:43:10,010 --> 01:43:05,699
connecting where I come from it doesn't

2323
01:43:13,729 --> 01:43:10,020
make and remember I'm a DOT connector so

2324
01:43:15,530 --> 01:43:13,739
you know again if you're ill-informed if

2325
01:43:18,290 --> 01:43:15,540
you don't think things through that

2326
01:43:20,930 --> 01:43:18,300
would probably seem very reasonable and

2327
01:43:22,910 --> 01:43:20,940
sensible and you would believe it but to

2328
01:43:25,370 --> 01:43:22,920
other people who are analytical or have

2329
01:43:28,970 --> 01:43:25,380
done research it just doesn't wash I

2330
01:43:32,330 --> 01:43:28,980
mean it doesn't hold true it just

2331
01:43:38,270 --> 01:43:32,340
just another lie right it well it seems

2332
01:43:40,930 --> 01:43:38,280
that there is some audible chatter some

2333
01:43:44,870 --> 01:43:40,940
from The New York Times uh some from

2334
01:43:48,109 --> 01:43:44,880
Carson Andre Carson's hearing

2335
01:43:49,850 --> 01:43:48,119
um and the Wilson Davis document it

2336
01:43:52,669 --> 01:43:49,860
seems like there's some chatter now

2337
01:43:56,030 --> 01:43:52,679
about uh

2338
01:43:58,370 --> 01:43:56,040
crash retrievals and the gut being in

2339
01:44:01,550 --> 01:43:58,380
possession of this and you cannot be in

2340
01:44:04,070 --> 01:44:01,560
the possession of Crash retrievals and

2341
01:44:07,129 --> 01:44:04,080
say that there's nothing going on here

2342
01:44:11,270 --> 01:44:07,139
we don't know right we're trying to you

2343
01:44:12,950 --> 01:44:11,280
you can't have that both ways I agree do

2344
01:44:15,830 --> 01:44:12,960
you think that that is what the

2345
01:44:18,290 --> 01:44:15,840
whistleblowers are that's the intention

2346
01:44:20,689 --> 01:44:18,300
is to get somebody to come out of

2347
01:44:24,530 --> 01:44:20,699
Lockheed and say I've been working on

2348
01:44:26,689 --> 01:44:24,540
this sap and yes we do have and this is

2349
01:44:28,850 --> 01:44:26,699
where it is is that where things are

2350
01:44:32,270 --> 01:44:28,860
going and do you think that the Senate

2351
01:44:34,669 --> 01:44:32,280
Congress house representative that their

2352
01:44:35,950 --> 01:44:34,679
interest is trying to get to the bottom

2353
01:44:38,470 --> 01:44:35,960
of it

2354
01:44:41,390 --> 01:44:38,480
I think that

2355
01:44:44,330 --> 01:44:41,400
contractors government contractors have

2356
01:44:47,270 --> 01:44:44,340
no self-interest or incentive to

2357
01:44:49,669 --> 01:44:47,280
whistleblow I think the whistleblowers

2358
01:44:50,870 --> 01:44:49,679
are people I've talked about for a long

2359
01:44:52,370 --> 01:44:50,880
time

2360
01:44:54,229 --> 01:44:52,380
experiencers

2361
01:44:58,370 --> 01:44:54,239
who

2362
01:45:01,669 --> 01:44:58,380
experienced because they're fearful of

2363
01:45:04,370 --> 01:45:01,679
losing their jobs of being ridiculed and

2364
01:45:06,970 --> 01:45:04,380
austricated ostracized in society

2365
01:45:09,830 --> 01:45:06,980
because of the CIA

2366
01:45:11,810 --> 01:45:09,840
long-term program to discredit

2367
01:45:17,030 --> 01:45:11,820
and debunk

2368
01:45:19,850 --> 01:45:17,040
and that part I I suspect

2369
01:45:22,790 --> 01:45:19,860
the reason that the certainly a driving

2370
01:45:24,050 --> 01:45:22,800
reason behind the Pentagon disclosure of

2371
01:45:26,209 --> 01:45:24,060
2020

2372
01:45:28,189 --> 01:45:26,219
was that they were in the awkward

2373
01:45:30,830 --> 01:45:28,199
position of having very credible

2374
01:45:32,810 --> 01:45:30,840
Witnesses hundreds now thousands of

2375
01:45:35,510 --> 01:45:32,820
credible Witnesses in various military

2376
01:45:37,070 --> 01:45:35,520
branches but especially the Navy on

2377
01:45:40,669 --> 01:45:37,080
these carriers out at sea floating

2378
01:45:42,709 --> 01:45:40,679
around seeing UFO phenomenon I dated a

2379
01:45:45,770 --> 01:45:42,719
guy who was in one of on one of these

2380
01:45:48,050 --> 01:45:45,780
carriers and he said we saw UFOs all the

2381
01:45:50,090 --> 01:45:48,060
time all the time

2382
01:45:51,649 --> 01:45:50,100
all the time and if we talked about him

2383
01:45:53,330 --> 01:45:51,659
people just laughed at us so we didn't

2384
01:45:56,510 --> 01:45:53,340
talk about them but we saw them all the

2385
01:45:59,750 --> 01:45:56,520
time they're a common phenomenon at C he

2386
01:46:03,830 --> 01:45:59,760
said and uh

2387
01:46:05,990 --> 01:46:03,840
I think the government decided that it

2388
01:46:08,270 --> 01:46:06,000
wasn't going to be tenable to continue

2389
01:46:10,370 --> 01:46:08,280
threatening all these people and also

2390
01:46:12,530 --> 01:46:10,380
these people were experiencing profound

2391
01:46:14,750 --> 01:46:12,540
psychological disorders

2392
01:46:17,450 --> 01:46:14,760
because they had to keep a very profound

2393
01:46:19,970 --> 01:46:17,460
secret a very deep secret from everybody

2394
01:46:22,910 --> 01:46:19,980
and basically they have to deny it to

2395
01:46:24,590 --> 01:46:22,920
themselves in order to believe that it's

2396
01:46:26,689 --> 01:46:24,600
true you have to convince yourself it's

2397
01:46:28,609 --> 01:46:26,699
true to make a lie convincing you have

2398
01:46:31,129 --> 01:46:28,619
to believe it and they're basically

2399
01:46:32,750 --> 01:46:31,139
having to brainwash themselves and I

2400
01:46:35,330 --> 01:46:32,760
think that became the snapping Point

2401
01:46:37,790 --> 01:46:35,340
yeah and there were so many of these

2402
01:46:41,629 --> 01:46:37,800
reports accumulating that the government

2403
01:46:43,910 --> 01:46:41,639
realized we gotta we got it's like a uh

2404
01:46:46,250 --> 01:46:43,920
pressure cooker that if we don't let the

2405
01:46:47,930 --> 01:46:46,260
steam off it's going to explode in our

2406
01:46:50,209 --> 01:46:47,940
faces and a bad thing is going to happen

2407
01:46:52,490 --> 01:46:50,219
so let's give them an Avenue to

2408
01:46:54,770 --> 01:46:52,500
whistleblow safely most people don't

2409
01:46:57,410 --> 01:46:54,780
care anyway about UFOs because because

2410
01:46:59,030 --> 01:46:57,420
for decades now we've been telling them

2411
01:47:00,410 --> 01:46:59,040
you must be crazy to believe in them so

2412
01:47:02,570 --> 01:47:00,420
most people don't spend any time

2413
01:47:04,370 --> 01:47:02,580
thinking about them at all or what it

2414
01:47:07,850 --> 01:47:04,380
might mean if there were aliens Among Us

2415
01:47:09,410 --> 01:47:07,860
which there are so so you know you get a

2416
01:47:11,510 --> 01:47:09,420
certain category of person the military

2417
01:47:13,790 --> 01:47:11,520
personnel allowed to talk about it now

2418
01:47:15,890 --> 01:47:13,800
without fear of reprisal without fear of

2419
01:47:18,530 --> 01:47:15,900
losing their jobs or anything like that

2420
01:47:20,149 --> 01:47:18,540
and yet they aren't this is what I'm

2421
01:47:23,030 --> 01:47:20,159
reading in the literature they aren't

2422
01:47:25,609 --> 01:47:23,040
coming forward and whistleblowing so why

2423
01:47:28,129 --> 01:47:25,619
would that be

2424
01:47:30,350 --> 01:47:28,139
for investigation to follow

2425
01:47:34,310 --> 01:47:30,360
well in here but you've got the top 10

2426
01:47:38,330 --> 01:47:34,320
UFO cases right in unknown objects and

2427
01:47:41,030 --> 01:47:38,340
if the hearings and what the Senate

2428
01:47:45,709 --> 01:47:41,040
there is right there and uh everybody

2429
01:47:48,590 --> 01:47:45,719
forwards or backwards it's it's correct

2430
01:47:53,270 --> 01:47:48,600
no it did

2431
01:47:55,070 --> 01:47:53,280
I can read the entire Amazon hold yes

2432
01:47:56,450 --> 01:47:55,080
you can go to Amazon my excellent

2433
01:47:58,729 --> 01:47:56,460
roommate did the art I know I'm

2434
01:48:00,290 --> 01:47:58,739
interrupting you at ceremony it's

2435
01:48:03,470 --> 01:48:00,300
terrible here's the nighttime retrieval

2436
01:48:06,950 --> 01:48:03,480
see the army truck yeah there it is but

2437
01:48:11,090 --> 01:48:06,960
but go ahead Jimmy I'm sorry Gene naked

2438
01:48:14,149 --> 01:48:11,100
if they if they want to stay uh so

2439
01:48:16,310 --> 01:48:14,159
military Centric in in who is coming

2440
01:48:21,050 --> 01:48:16,320
forward and talking about this we've got

2441
01:48:23,209 --> 01:48:21,060
rental shim oh I love renderson oh yeah

2442
01:48:25,970 --> 01:48:23,219
I just talked about that on paranormal

2443
01:48:29,330 --> 01:48:25,980
legit paranormal news well uh uh we

2444
01:48:32,030 --> 01:48:29,340
everybody is alive and it's a it's an

2445
01:48:34,310 --> 01:48:32,040
Air Force case and we have all the

2446
01:48:36,229 --> 01:48:34,320
documentation there's a landmark

2447
01:48:38,629 --> 01:48:36,239
settlement you're familiar with the

2448
01:48:41,510 --> 01:48:38,639
military the VA settlements of course of

2449
01:48:43,430 --> 01:48:41,520
course I've had uh Colonel halt was

2450
01:48:45,950 --> 01:48:43,440
awarded millions of dollars for the

2451
01:48:48,050 --> 01:48:45,960
cancer that he got as a direct result of

2452
01:48:49,790 --> 01:48:48,060
contact with UFO on the ground and

2453
01:48:52,550 --> 01:48:49,800
that's what his that's what the lawsuit

2454
01:48:54,109 --> 01:48:52,560
said John Burroughs you mean John

2455
01:48:56,930 --> 01:48:54,119
Burrough was it Burroughs yeah it was

2456
01:49:00,169 --> 01:48:56,940
Burrows but I apologize I corrected

2457
01:49:02,930 --> 01:49:00,179
Burroughs go ahead why why doesn't uh

2458
01:49:06,470 --> 01:49:02,940
the Senate intelligence committee bring

2459
01:49:08,149 --> 01:49:06,480
boroughs forward bring halt forward and

2460
01:49:09,770 --> 01:49:08,159
forward they are they on these

2461
01:49:12,530 --> 01:49:09,780
committees

2462
01:49:15,590 --> 01:49:12,540
I I don't understand it that's what I

2463
01:49:17,930 --> 01:49:15,600
want to know why don't we have actual

2464
01:49:19,729 --> 01:49:17,940
subject matter experts on these

2465
01:49:23,209 --> 01:49:19,739
committees even you people from the

2466
01:49:27,530 --> 01:49:26,320
yeah David Duchovny

2467
01:49:30,770 --> 01:49:27,540
[Music]

2468
01:49:33,050 --> 01:49:30,780
but if if that's what they want to do if

2469
01:49:35,750 --> 01:49:33,060
they want to stay uh you know in

2470
01:49:37,010 --> 01:49:35,760
military circles you've got a modern

2471
01:49:40,669 --> 01:49:37,020
case

2472
01:49:43,310 --> 01:49:40,679
all the witnesses are alive and with us

2473
01:49:46,070 --> 01:49:43,320
and and you have all of the

2474
01:49:48,290 --> 01:49:46,080
documentation and all of the reports

2475
01:49:51,109 --> 01:49:48,300
everything that was done by the United

2476
01:49:53,990 --> 01:49:51,119
States Air Force it's it's all right

2477
01:49:57,770 --> 01:49:54,000
there and you are able to question and

2478
01:50:00,109 --> 01:49:57,780
get testimony from those that were there

2479
01:50:03,850 --> 01:50:00,119
and I I don't know they don't and

2480
01:50:08,530 --> 01:50:06,709
well and and I think that there's also a

2481
01:50:13,550 --> 01:50:08,540
connection back to gillibrand because

2482
01:50:18,470 --> 01:50:13,560
gillibran again wrote uh into the budget

2483
01:50:21,410 --> 01:50:18,480
and and and into law uh to protect those

2484
01:50:23,390 --> 01:50:21,420
that would be affect their that their

2485
01:50:26,870 --> 01:50:23,400
health would be affected and I think

2486
01:50:29,270 --> 01:50:26,880
that she was referring uh directly at

2487
01:50:32,209 --> 01:50:29,280
John Burroughs and and and and and

2488
01:50:34,910 --> 01:50:32,219
everything that he went through after

2489
01:50:39,129 --> 01:50:34,920
his contact in in the rendelshim forest

2490
01:50:42,169 --> 01:50:39,139
so they obviously know that uaps UFOs

2491
01:50:44,930 --> 01:50:42,179
are affecting people directly and they

2492
01:50:46,129 --> 01:50:44,940
have evidence of this you know but they

2493
01:50:48,590 --> 01:50:46,139
want to say that they don't understand

2494
01:50:52,430 --> 01:50:48,600
the phenomena it's it's it's so

2495
01:50:55,550 --> 01:50:52,440
perplexing it is perplexing it's spy

2496
01:50:58,490 --> 01:50:55,560
versus spy versus spy versus spy

2497
01:51:00,890 --> 01:50:58,500
there's so many layers of deception

2498
01:51:03,530 --> 01:51:00,900
and you know the best lies are founded

2499
01:51:05,689 --> 01:51:03,540
on some truth the most convincing lies

2500
01:51:08,330 --> 01:51:05,699
are founded on some truth

2501
01:51:11,450 --> 01:51:08,340
so there's probably some truth

2502
01:51:17,109 --> 01:51:14,390
yeah I know and you know it's job

2503
01:51:20,390 --> 01:51:17,119
security for us Jimmy

2504
01:51:23,570 --> 01:51:20,400
as paranormal researchers we'll never

2505
01:51:26,149 --> 01:51:23,580
run out of stuff to talk about one last

2506
01:51:29,330 --> 01:51:26,159
question before I let you go

2507
01:51:31,790 --> 01:51:29,340
um administrations come and go but the

2508
01:51:34,729 --> 01:51:31,800
agencies and the military these are

2509
01:51:37,970 --> 01:51:34,739
lifers these are careers that and and

2510
01:51:40,669 --> 01:51:37,980
agendas that continue after each

2511
01:51:42,530 --> 01:51:40,679
Administration goes through

2512
01:51:46,070 --> 01:51:42,540
um its cycle

2513
01:51:49,189 --> 01:51:46,080
um is is this stuff ever revealed uh to

2514
01:51:52,490 --> 01:51:49,199
an Administration or is a president just

2515
01:51:53,629 --> 01:51:52,500
not important enough uh to to be right

2516
01:51:57,850 --> 01:51:53,639
in

2517
01:52:02,090 --> 01:51:57,860
well you probably heard that

2518
01:52:03,770 --> 01:52:02,100
the Prime Minister slash president of

2519
01:52:07,689 --> 01:52:03,780
Russia

2520
01:52:10,669 --> 01:52:07,699
told the story of

2521
01:52:12,590 --> 01:52:10,679
being of being approached when he became

2522
01:52:15,109 --> 01:52:12,600
he alternates with the other guy to be

2523
01:52:17,270 --> 01:52:15,119
president or prime minister of Russia so

2524
01:52:20,030 --> 01:52:17,280
he said in one of his terms he was

2525
01:52:22,189 --> 01:52:20,040
approached by uh

2526
01:52:25,850 --> 01:52:22,199
basically a secret agent

2527
01:52:29,030 --> 01:52:25,860
with a briefcase handcuffed to his wrist

2528
01:52:30,890 --> 01:52:29,040
and he went into a private office on

2529
01:52:34,250 --> 01:52:30,900
handcuffed the briefcase opened it up

2530
01:52:36,530 --> 01:52:34,260
and gave him a briefing on UFOs

2531
01:52:39,350 --> 01:52:36,540
and he said the same thing happens to

2532
01:52:40,850 --> 01:52:39,360
presidents of the United States and

2533
01:52:43,430 --> 01:52:40,860
there was at least one president of the

2534
01:52:45,590 --> 01:52:43,440
United States who alluded to that that

2535
01:52:48,470 --> 01:52:45,600
conversation or interview and was told

2536
01:52:50,570 --> 01:52:48,480
ixnay on on the average you know don't

2537
01:52:53,090 --> 01:52:50,580
blab about it don't be talking about

2538
01:52:54,950 --> 01:52:53,100
this to anybody and there were other and

2539
01:52:56,930 --> 01:52:54,960
so I think certain presidents get the

2540
01:52:58,850 --> 01:52:56,940
briefing and others don't

2541
01:53:00,530 --> 01:52:58,860
in the United States that seems to be

2542
01:53:03,530 --> 01:53:00,540
what's going on some presidents

2543
01:53:06,229 --> 01:53:03,540
apparently just don't get it but it was

2544
01:53:09,850 --> 01:53:06,239
the former prime minister of defense of

2545
01:53:13,550 --> 01:53:09,860
Canada Paul Hillier who really

2546
01:53:16,430 --> 01:53:13,560
broke that aspect of the story that when

2547
01:53:18,649 --> 01:53:16,440
he took over his office within two weeks

2548
01:53:21,649 --> 01:53:18,659
he had files Crossing his desk on the

2549
01:53:23,990 --> 01:53:21,659
UFO phenomenon whether he whether he

2550
01:53:26,570 --> 01:53:24,000
received a private briefing or not he

2551
01:53:29,689 --> 01:53:26,580
started to receive incontrovertible

2552
01:53:33,109 --> 01:53:29,699
evidence that these things exist and so

2553
01:53:35,990 --> 01:53:33,119
after his term he began to whistleblow

2554
01:53:38,390 --> 01:53:36,000
and talk about a credible witness and

2555
01:53:40,790 --> 01:53:38,400
yet there were still debunkers saying

2556
01:53:42,530 --> 01:53:40,800
that Hellyer was making it up that he

2557
01:53:46,370 --> 01:53:42,540
was grandstanding

2558
01:53:48,010 --> 01:53:46,380
it was just you know what

2559
01:53:50,990 --> 01:53:48,020
why would he

2560
01:53:52,910 --> 01:53:51,000
just doesn't make sense so what's the

2561
01:53:55,669 --> 01:53:52,920
next step though I I don't think that

2562
01:53:57,970 --> 01:53:55,679
the community should relax maybe Mars

2563
01:54:01,189 --> 01:53:57,980
Attacks yeah

2564
01:54:03,470 --> 01:54:01,199
I mean think about project uh blue is it

2565
01:54:10,390 --> 01:54:03,480
blue beam between the Holograms in space

2566
01:54:15,470 --> 01:54:13,250
anything is possible well we kind of had

2567
01:54:18,290 --> 01:54:15,480
that when we were firing missiles over

2568
01:54:21,109 --> 01:54:18,300
the United States back in February uh

2569
01:54:23,330 --> 01:54:21,119
Revelation is Jehovah going to show up

2570
01:54:25,490 --> 01:54:23,340
and fight you know that would get back

2571
01:54:26,870 --> 01:54:25,500
to Sumerian myth is it going to be enlil

2572
01:54:33,109 --> 01:54:26,880
and

2573
01:54:34,970 --> 01:54:33,119
Inky Inky yeah the other end the two end

2574
01:54:36,350 --> 01:54:34,980
half brothers are they going to show up

2575
01:54:38,810 --> 01:54:36,360
with their spaceships and have another

2576
01:54:41,030 --> 01:54:38,820
aerial battle like in that wood cut from

2577
01:54:43,550 --> 01:54:41,040
the Middle Ages in Germany I think it'll

2578
01:54:45,770 --> 01:54:43,560
be Elvis stay tuned Hendrix it'll be

2579
01:54:47,870 --> 01:54:45,780
Elvis and Jimi Hendrix that's why the

2580
01:54:50,629 --> 01:54:47,880
aliens come to Earth it's just like a

2581
01:54:53,510 --> 01:54:50,639
constant scene here it's it's a show

2582
01:54:57,169 --> 01:54:53,520
it's a scene it's a movie they love it

2583
01:54:59,870 --> 01:54:57,179
here thank you so much and everybody uh

2584
01:55:01,870 --> 01:54:59,880
you can get uh unknown objects right

2585
01:55:04,430 --> 01:55:01,880
there on Amazon

2586
01:55:06,410 --> 01:55:04,440
no we put up the link in the chat for

2587
01:55:09,229 --> 01:55:06,420
you Gene so it's right there everybody

2588
01:55:10,850 --> 01:55:09,239
go and get it Gene thank you so much and

2589
01:55:12,950 --> 01:55:10,860
I can't wait to have you back on the

2590
01:55:14,810 --> 01:55:12,960
show Jim it's been a real pleasure I

2591
01:55:16,609 --> 01:55:14,820
can't believe the time went so fast and

2592
01:55:18,169 --> 01:55:16,619
I'm glad so anytime I'm glancing over

2593
01:55:20,330 --> 01:55:18,179
I'm looking at the chat there's been

2594
01:55:24,070 --> 01:55:20,340
some very interesting chat here too your

2595
01:55:27,169 --> 01:55:24,080
audience is on the ball I salute you all

2596
01:55:29,689 --> 01:55:27,179
Gene you're the best I remember uh

2597
01:55:31,970 --> 01:55:29,699
everybody when when I met Gene and uh

2598
01:55:35,390 --> 01:55:31,980
she gave me her book and and we talked

2599
01:55:38,149 --> 01:55:35,400
uh briefly and I don't know why we

2600
01:55:40,129 --> 01:55:38,159
waited so long uh to get you on the show

2601
01:55:42,050 --> 01:55:40,139
it just doesn't make any sense but we'll

2602
01:55:43,790 --> 01:55:42,060
have you back on soon thank you so much

2603
01:55:46,330 --> 01:55:43,800
Gene be safe out there and keep doing

2604
01:55:50,270 --> 01:55:46,340
your thing thanks Jimmy bye everybody

2605
01:55:52,370 --> 01:55:50,280
great conversation Gene boyda and again

2606
01:55:54,470 --> 01:55:52,380
um uh bill has got the link up for

2607
01:55:57,590 --> 01:55:54,480
unknown objects it's right there in the

2608
01:56:01,010 --> 01:55:57,600
chat we've got it over on our website

2609
01:56:02,689 --> 01:56:01,020
and throughout social media there you go

2610
01:56:05,090 --> 01:56:02,699
great conversation tonight thank you so

2611
01:56:07,250 --> 01:56:05,100
much Gene and uh what am I doing

2612
01:56:10,430 --> 01:56:07,260
tomorrow night tomorrow night on the

2613
01:56:12,050 --> 01:56:10,440
show oh tomorrow night I got Drew Beason

2614
01:56:15,770 --> 01:56:12,060
on the show we're going to be talking

2615
01:56:18,290 --> 01:56:15,780
about D.B Cooper the Zodiac Killer and

2616
01:56:20,109 --> 01:56:18,300
uh and some other stuff it's gonna be

2617
01:56:23,810 --> 01:56:20,119
really great all of that tomorrow night

2618
01:56:25,790 --> 01:56:23,820
with uh uh Drew Beason all right so

2619
01:56:28,010 --> 01:56:25,800
that's tomorrow night thank you so much

2620
01:56:31,250 --> 01:56:28,020
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01:56:34,790 --> 01:56:33,000
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01:57:07,550 --> 01:57:06,600
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